Family/Spouse: Elihu YATES. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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This John is related to my Marmaduke through DNA evidence of a descendant, but is off by two markers out of 37, meaning they probably have a common ancestor back further than South Carolina.

John Coate was the executor for his fathers will in 1817 in Edgefield District, South Carolina. (C-1570, 1571) He has to be the John Coate who makes several large land transactions in Edgefield Co., SC beginning in 1821 on Turkey Creek, where his father had lived. His spouses name was Martha in several of the later deeds of sale. There is no other John that fits the right age of the two Coate families that sired children in Edgefield District, SC other than this John. (C-1719)

His land transactions in Edgefield include probably all of the following: John Coates bought 212 acres from William Partain on Mar 6, 1821 on Rocky Creek, another 140 from Abram Anderson adjoining his property on Jul 9, 1821, 860 acres from Moor Johnson in 1824, 264 acres from David Nicholson in 1828 on Rocky Creek, 808 from William & John Raiford in 1832 on Turkey Creek, 240 more from Abner Landrum in 1832, and 233 more on Rocky Creek from Belcher in 1833. He sold several pieces of land also. He sold 300 acres to Eliza Bland in 1821 on Turkey Creek, possibly land he inherited from his father. He sold 240 acres to John Wright, Jr. in 1837 and another 837 to Jonathan Weaver on Turkey Creek in that same year. Again, this might include land he inherited from his father. He made $5,500 on his last land sale, which was a very good price at the time. His wife was listed as Martha in both 1837 land sales. He appeared to have no wife in the 1821 land sale. (C-912)

After he sold land in 1837 Edgefield S. C., he moved his family to Ill. and settled around the Schutz mill area (or Hurricane Creek Mills, Patterson, Ill.?) in Greene County. He was one of the first lenders in the area and a very large one at that. Here is the information gleaned from the 1850 census for this family. 1850 Greene Co., IL census, John Coats, age 52, M, Farmer $2000.00 b. S.C. Martha Coats, age 43, F, b. S.C. Leonidas Coats, age 21, M, Miller, b. S.C. John S. Coats, age 18, M, Miller, b. S.C. James, age 16, M, Student, b. S.C. William B., age 15, M, b. S.C. Milton, age 11, M, b. Illinois Mary Jane, age 9 F, b. Illinois Chester, age 6, M, b. Illinois Elizabeth, age 5, F, b. Illinois Jasper, age 2, M., b. Illinois

John was a well respected, honest man according to his obituary and his death even at an elderly age brought shock to his neighbors. He was hard of hearing at the time, and took to walking on the railroad tracks. He was caught nearly unaware by a train engine, unable to hear it until it was too late. (C-2605)

John married Elizabeth Martha OWDEM about 1828 in , Edgefield, SC, USA. Elizabeth was born about 1807 in , , South Carolina; died in 1852 in , Greene, IL, USA; was buried in Wilmington Cemetery, Greene, IL, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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She was born in South Carolina according to her son, John Coates 1880 census records. She is living on Dec. 2, 1850 when the census was taken in Greene Co., IL but is deceased by the 1860 census. I have seen her death date as 3/1849, but this obviously has to be wrong as she was on the census in December of that year as well as having another son in 1852.

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It is this James of Edgefield, son of Gentleman John, that is related to Marmaduke Coate (1738-1822) although the match is not exact. They have a varience of 2 points out of 37 DNA points. We do not know their first common ancestor with certainty at this time, though a theorectical ancestral lineage is presented here. The ages of James and his children come from his family bible in the possession of a descendant. The James who married Elizabeth Scott made his will in 1817. (C-1544, 1550, C-1555, 1560) It is abstracted herewith. Edgefield Co., SC, Will, p. 389 James Coats proven Nov.7, 1817. Legatees; son John Coats, land where I live, granted James Scott, 13 May 1786. One tract conveyed to me by Armstead Hall. April 24, 1805. Son James Coats a tract originally granted William Mazyek, 1775, on Turkey Creek. Another tract Jacob McDaniel February 3, 1806. Daughters, Elizabeth and Hannah. Daughter, Gracey who married James Smiley. My daughter Mary who married Marmaduke Coats. My single daughter. Executor: my son John Coats Box 6 Package 213. John Coats executor Recorded in book B page 389 Nov 7, 1817. John Simkins OEC. Paid Marmaduke Coats $646.00. Paid Thomas Hart $737.00. Paid Hannah Coats $958.00. paid James Smyly in full $1082.00 1821 John Coats Executor. James is not in the 1790 SC census records. He first appears in the 1800 census in Edgefield Co., South Carolina. In it, he and his wife are listed between ages 26 and 45. They have 1 son under age 10 and 3 daughters under age ten. (p. 186). (C-1568, 1638) James, husband of Elizabeth Scott, is the James who bought 300 acres of land from Stephen Williams on Mar 12, 1800 on Turkey Creek in Edgefield District, South Carolina. The land had originally been owned by Jones, Hall and Scott. In Apr. of 1805 he bought 6 additional acres adjoining his land from Armstead Hall. In 1806, he purchased another 50 acres on Turkey Creek from William Partain. In 1807, he is given additional land on Turkey Creek by his father-in-law, James Scott, in his will. His last purchase of land appears to have been on Sep. 1808. He added 199 more acres on the Turkey Creek waters of the Savannah attached to his property from George Wilson (his wife's nephew). (C-912) By 1810 James is again in the Edgfield Co., SC census. One of his sons is under age 10, one is between 10 and 16, and he is over age 45. He has two daughters under age ten, 2 from 10 to 16 and 1 from 16 to 26 years old. His wife appears to be deceased by 1810. Note that he has one more daughter listed here than is named in his will. According to his family bible, that would be Sarah. (C-1569, E) James was of Edgefield at the time and married to an Elizabeth. For years, it has been thought that he was James Roberts married to Josephine Elizabeth Webster, but a bible transcription for them lists James Robert's birth date at 1786 and his marriage date to Elizabeth Webster as 1807. How did he have a wife named Elizabeth in the 1805 deed? If he were James Robert, he would have been born very late compared to his oldest brother Samuel being at least 30 years apart. John W. Coats suggested that James, husband of Elizabeth Scott Coates, of Edgefield was instead the son of Gentleman John. This fit is solid. The James of Edgefield on Turkey Creek is purchasing land there by 1800. He inherited 41 acres from his stated father, Gentleman John which he then sold to his brother, William. "NEWBERRY COURT RECORD: 15 Aug 1805: James Coats of Edgefield District to William Coats of Newberry for $101.00, a tract of 41 acres in Newberry on waters of Bush River called Mathew Creek, which was originally granted to Christian Kinder for 250 acres, and by him to John Coate, deceased. Bequeached by John Coate deceased, to his son James.Signed 15 Aug 1805Recorded 25 Jan 1806Witness: J. B. Mitchell, John Coate. James of Edgefield was born between 1755 and 1765 according to census records and would be the correct age to be Gentleman John's son, James. He married an Elizabeth before the 1805 deed, and he is the only James that can be verified as living in Edgefield at the time. James, Mary and John were three of James and Elizabeth Scott's Coate's children's names that are the same as this family. Lastly, it is verified that James is married to Elizabeth Scott in Edgfield County records according to descendant and researcher, Gary G. Coates of White Hall, Greene Co., Illinois. (C-1549, 1953) This James has also been connected to be the son of William Sr. who died in St. George's Parish, SC near Charleston in 1753. This absolutely doesn't fit with this James who was born in 1765 according to his bible and census info.

James married Elizabeth SCOTT in 1792. Elizabeth (daughter of James SCOTT and Hannah BEALE) died before 1817. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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This Coate's group's lineage is proven back to Henry Coate "The Elder" b. abt 1595 who was the son of Marmaduke and Marie Somner Coate of Bridgeport and Curry Rivel England via a YDNA match to a cousin in Australia. We know from our Coats YDNA group that Gentleman John is absolutely a descendant from Samuel and Mary Saunder's Coate so the theory that his father is William is still reasonable. William was after all the only other son of Samuel and Mary Saunders Coate that ended up in South Carolina near the town of Newberry. We also know that his brother, Henry's sons as recorded in Quaker records do not account for any of William's sons.

What we also know through a detailed YDNA analysis, is that his son John is Big John Coats!!!!! This evidence comes from comparing the YDNA of a descendant of Gentleman John with 4 descendants of Big John. The results show Big John is related at the 8 generation point to Gentleman John at the 97% range. Also these sets of descendants have way more YDNA in common than with anyone else in the Coats group confirming by age, place and YDNA that Big John is the son of Gentleman John. Multiple autosomal triangulations with another descendant of Big John via his son John M. also converge on this exact same deduction.

We now have good YDNA evidence that Gentleman John is the probable brother to Thomas who died in the Newberry area of SC in 1800.

We also now have an indication via autosomal DNA triangulations with Dubois descendants that this Gentleman John who died on May 6, 1803 is related to the Rachel Dubois Coate of Northern Liberties, Philadelphia, PA and to her grandfaher, Louis Dubois. What that indicates is that Gentleman John's wife or Mother was a Dubois descended from Louis Dubois! We know it can be narrowed to these 2 females as they are the only unknown females back in the distance where autosomal dna is indicating a common Dubois ancestor to Gentleman John.

What we also know about John is that he has the title Gentleman in some of the late public documents in the Carolinas. He was probably born between 1730 and 1740. He might possibly be the John Coate who along with wife Mary, moved from Chesterfield M.M. to Kingwood M.M., N.J. on 13,1,1763 and then returned to Chesterfield M.M. on 11,12,1766. (C-46) Here is what Summers book says about him: "John Coats died about 1803, his will being dated May 25, 1799. He left widow, Mary, and children Samuel, John, William, James, Mary Pemberton, Katy Casselle, and Rebecca."

We know that John Coate owned land on Mathias Branch on Bush Creek from his will. Kathleen Woodrow believes that Mathias Branch is a creek that runs closely into the junction of Reedy Creek and Big Beaverdam Creek before it flows into Bush River a mile north of the town of Newberry. However, it should be noted that no deed has been found for his purchase of land. A 400 acre tract purchased in 1772 is attributed to him, but it's location has been determined to be multiple miles northwest of the town of Newberry, with neighbors that don't connect to any of the neighbors of his in a 1773 plat map or in his will of 1803. A plat map survey done for Christian Kinslar in Mar. of 1773 on Bush River shows that John Coate (his son) was adjoining his land. Other neighbors included Jacob Pemberton, John Furnas, Samuel Kelly, and Jacob Chandler (all families mentioned as adjoining land he was giving to his sons in his will). Some of these are the same persons living next to William Coats when he purchased land in Craven Co., SC in 1767. He therefore, might be the John Coats who purchased 150 acres of land on June 6, 1769 in Craven Co., South Carolina. It's possible boundary changes in the county lines could mean this land was later in Newberry, SC. That needs to be checked. (C-2306)

He was the John that was connected as furnishing sundries and supplies during the Revolutionary War in DAR records. This was revoked as lacking evidence at some point. Here is the DAR index that was listed for Gentleman John in the past. COATS , John, Birth SC Circa 1740, Rank PS (Public Service), Service SC, Death SC 3 , Jun 1803, Patriot Pensioned No, Widow Pensioned No, Children Pensioned No, Heirs Pensioned No, Spouse (1) Mary X (C-614c, 1889, EL-Coate). He apparently was delisted as a Revolutionary War supporter in about 1998 because no one could prove for sure that he was the John Coate who was a Revolutionary War soldier. These reimbursement papers from 1781-1783 indicate he did blacksmithing. These papers, therefore, likely to belong to Big John or Little John Coats as they were the only known blacksmiths in the Coate family at that time. He or his son John is probably the John who was disowned by the Quaker church at the Oct 28, 1780 Bush River MM, South Carolina. His family isn't even included in Medlin's [UL:Quaker Families:UL]. It should be noted however, that the William who is connected as John's son, signs his own will like a Quaker would have.

At least some of his grandchildren married into the Baptist faith and are buried in Bush River Baptist Cemetery. One of his great grand-daughters married into the Baptist faith, Nancy, d. of Samuel's daughter, Charlotte Steadman, also. (C-1896, 1927)In the 1790 census (p. 57), I now believe him to be the John Cotes living next to Samuel Kelly. If so, he had 3 males over 16 and 3 females in the household. This would account for he and his wife, their son James and youngest daughter, Rebecka. I'm guessing that one of his married children and spouse are also still living on his farm at that time. If this is him, he is living next to Samuel Kelly, Sr. and near his son John who looked to be newly married with a wife. They would have also lived within 40 homes of Marmaduke and Little John Coates family.

I have determined that this census applies to him for the following reasons. His neighbors in the 1790 census records match his neighbors in the following land transactions. He is listed as a neighbor along with James Dobbins on Matthias Branch of Bush River in Aug of 1770. (James Dobbins is also on page 56.) His daughter Mary is married to George Pemberton on page 57 also. When he witnesses Joseiah Pemberton's purchase of land on Dec 5, 1771 on Mathews Creek on Bush River, his neighbors are Robert Evans, and John Brooks. Pembertons and Brooks lived somewhat near as they are on page 57 and 56. (see below) When he deeds 3 of his sons property in 1803 before his death, the properties bounded on lands owned by Samuel Compton (Kampton), Rebekah Evans, Welk Furnas and Samuel Kelly. All the persons mentioned in these records are neighbors or have the same surnames of persons living near him in the 1790 census. One of these deed records is listed below. (C-559, 1549, 2232) p. 247 Book Z-3, pp. 271-275, 5 or 6 Dec. 1771, James Walker Moore (his mark), blacksmith, Haverilla (her mark) his wife, to Joseiah Pemberton, planter, both of Berkeley Co., for 400 pounds currency, 250 a. on Mathews Creek, a branch of Bush River, bounding NW, NE on Robert Evans; NE on John Brooks; other sides on vacant land; granted Moore 24 Aug 1720 by Lt. Gov. William Bull (Sec. Book F.F.F., p. 131). Witnesses: John Thomas, John Coate, James Daugherty. Before Thomas Wadlington, J.P. Recorded 10 Nov. 1772 by Henry Rugeley, Register. In the 1800 census, Gentleman John and his wife are empty nesters, living as a couple with no other children in their household.

John Coate's wife's surname is still unknown. Parks suggested that it might be Mary McQueston from a 1769 marriage record in North Carolina. However, this entire family named John Coots and Mary McQuiston, stayed and raised children in NC and Tennesee in Presbyterian Church records, so that theory has been proven to be incorrect. (C-1898) Another theory is that she is Mary Watson based upon a deed record dated Jun 7, 1774. Though it is possible he married a Mary Watson, I see no certain connection because we've figured out who each of the persons in that deed are. A James Coate died in 1794 in GA, leaving heirs that included his wife Mary, his son John (who had moved to Newberry, SC) and multiple daughters who all married Watsons, sons of Thomas Watson, Sr. (C-1521)

His will written May 25, 1799 is transcribed as follows: In the Name of God Amen (This verifies that he is not a Quaker at his death as it is a form of oath taking) ---- I John Coate of the County of Newberry and State of South Carolina being in my perfect mind memory and Understanding and Calling to mind the Mortality of my body and Knowing that it is appointed for Man Once to die, do Make and Ordain this my last Will and Testament (VIZ). I give and bequeath unto my beloved Wife Mary Coats all my Household Kitchen furniture of what every kind there May be during her natural life and at her death to be Disposed off as she may think proper, for her Support and Maintainace - Item. I give and bequeth unto my son Samuel Coats One Shillng Sterling and no more to him his heirs forever ---- Item. I give and bequeth unto my Son John Coats One Tract of land lying on waters of Bush River Joining lands of William Comptons, and running on Samuel Comptons, Rebekah Evans's and Isaiah Pemberton's lines to the Corner from thence across to Chandlers line it being a part of a Tract of Three Hundred Ac of land to him his heirs and assigns forever. ---Item I give and bequeath unto my son William Coats a plantation or Tract of land Joining lands of Samuel Kelley beginning at Mathiases Creek from thence running upon Chandlers line from thence up the line to where it intersects the line to be run between my sons John Coats and William Coats, being a part of aforeseaid Tract of Three Hundred Acres, with my Waggon and all my working and farming Utensils to him his heirs & Assigns forever --- Item I give and bequeath unto my son James Coats one other plantation or Tract of land lying on the East Side of Mathhieses Creek beginning on Isaiah Pembertons line and running to Wilk Furnaises line from thence on Isaiah Pembertons line down to Matthew's Creek thence up the said Creek to the beginning to him his heirs and assigns forever --- Item I give and bequeath unto my three Daughters Namely Mary Pemberton Caty Cassels and Rebekah Coats One Shilling Sterling and no more. and lastly I Do hereby Nominate appoint my Sons James Coats, John Coats and William Coats my Executors to this My last Will & Testatment Ratifying and Confirming this and no other to be my last Will and Testament and Revoking all other wills by me made In Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal this 25th, Day of May 1799 --- Signed Sealed published pronounce and Declared to be the last Will and Testament of the said John Coate in the presence of Edward Thweatt Geo. Powel - Fred. Nance John Coate (Seal) Recorded in Will Book "D" Page 57. Proved June 6th, 1803. Test. Samuel Lindsey, O.N.D. (Recording Date Not Available). Box No. 26- Pkg No 55-- Est No. 613. (C-266, 336, 614b, 633, 692, 1954, 2121)He died on May 6, 1803. (C-692) His children were not listed as minors at the writing of his will in 1799. Two of his daughters were married by that point. (C-879, 886)

All the children's birth dates I have estimated from information in the will, from information on his possible son Samuel's daughter, Nancy, and from census records. Note that as the son of William, he would have named one son after his father and one daughter after his step-sister Katherine.

An interesting pattern appears with the land he deeded his sons on his deathbed in 1803. Gentleman John's son William in his will dated 1816, gives land to his family that is described in a way that could match the original William of 1766's land in Newberry Co., South Carolina. It is listed as adjoining "old Golden's" land which was true of William of 1766's land. When he was given land by his father's will dated 1799, the land was described as being next to Samuel Kelly's land. Again, this was another neighbor of the original William. In other words, the William who died ca 1822 could have owned land of his grandfather. We are not sure if he received it from his father John, his possible grandfather William, or one of his brothers, but it certainly sounds like land that the original William owned.

Gentleman married Mary UNKNOWN before 1754. Mary was born before 1735; died after 1799. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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By at least 10 autsomal triangulations with Rachel Dubois of Northern Liberties and her grandfather, Louis Dubois, we know that either this Mary's last name is Dubois or Gentleman John's mother's maiden name is Dubois. I have not been able to currently find a Mary Dubois of the correct age who is unmaried who could account for this Mary to explain the dna triangulations between Dubois and Gentleman John Coate.

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A transcription of James Scott's Will dated 1804 is herewith provided by Charlotte Coats Siercks: James Scott - of Turky Creek - being well stricken in years - wife Hannah Scott - grandson George Wilson - son in law: James Coate, all land on the southside of Turky Creek and on the North the Hill where his house stands - referes to son and daughter "James and Elizabeth Coate, female children"...looks like he gave them a slave...witnesses: John Saltio or Salteo, Jacob McDaniel and Ebeuatus Stevens (not sure of the spelling of that first name Ebeuatus) proved in July 10th 1807; recorded May 17, 1808. (E)

James married Hannah BEALE. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]