Notes:

UA Record #:2405 Harry Thomas Owen was sometimes called Henry Thomas Owen or Harry Thomas. He was the original Quaker in this line. He decided upon the truth of the Quaker religion as a young man and is listed in Besse's "Suffering of the Quakers" along with Evan Harry as imprisoned, very hardly used, lodging on bare boards and having their water sometimes kept from them. From 1662 to 1681, his name frequently occurs in the Quarter session records of Montgomery County as fined for non-attendance of the established church (Anglican?) and it notes that he was a Quaker. He was presented to the Grand Jury, as a Quaker, in the April Sessions, 1681. (C-437, p.574) His birth and death dates are not known but estimated. He was likely to be alive in 1686 when he is mentioned in PA Quaker records as the father of Hugh Harry who needed monetary help from his son's in America. (C-437, p.6)

Family/Spouse: Elizabeth UNKNOWN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Hugh HARRY was born in 1662 in Of Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, WLS; died after 28 Sep 1708 in Birmingham Twp., Chester, PA, USA.
2. Daniel HARRY
3. Evan HARRY

Notes:

It is not now certain that Harry Thomas Owen's father was Thomas. Even if his name was Thomas as suspected from Welsh naming patterns, there appear to have been two Thomas Owens living in Machynlleth. The famous Thomas Owen who has been presented as his father in even the American President's genealogies is now considered unlikely to be Harry's father. This Thomas served as Mayor of Machynlleth in 20 James (1622) and later as Magistrate. He was a well-to-do landowner like his father around Machynlleth. In the REGISTRUM UNIVERSITATIS OXONIENSIS is lists that he graduated from Oxford specifically Jesus College, Oxford on May 3, 1616 at age 20. That would place his birth date around 1598 even though other source estimates are around 1607. (C-437,p6) He died in 1672. The Owen home, originally built around 400 years ago, called "Llynlloed" is possibly where the Magistrate Thomas lived. Photographs and diagrams of it are in the Harry Harold, July. 1991 issue. The original home is inside the structure that has been added to and currently stands in Wales. (C-750) This Magistrate Thomas Owen line goes back maternally through many branches of Royalty. However, it is now considered HIGHLY suspect because 1) Hugh Thomas Owen's son Hugh Harry is listed as a pauper in his son's American Quaker records, 2) Hugh Harry when he came to America was a weaver, a profession not likely for the grandchild of someone with the stature of the above Thomas Owen, 3) Hugh Thomas did not live in Macynlleth originally, but apparently moved there from elsewhere (which is not the case with the well-to-do Thomas Owen above described) and 4) Thomas Owen, the magistrate, in his will, lists 2 sons and 8 daughters and all his grandchildren. He does not list Harry or Henry as a son. This last point might not matter since he could have disowned a son Harry when he became a Quaker. (C-1209, E)

Thomas married Joyce PUGHE in 1624 in Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales. Joyce was born in 1600 in Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales; died in 1630 in Machynlleth, WA, Montgomeryshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her name was originally Joyce Vertz Hugh meaning Joyce the daughter of Hugh. This in time got translated as Pughe or Pugh by U.S. naming customs.

Rowland married Elizabeth PUGH in 1597 in Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales. Elizabeth was born in 1570 in Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales; died on 29 Aug 1641 in Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales Buried St Asaph Church, Montgomeryshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]