Thomas THORPE

Thomas THORPE

Male 1659 - 1704  (45 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Thomas THORPE was born in 1659 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; was christened in Nov 1659 in St Mary, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England (son of Thomas THORPE and Elizabeth (NOT POWELL)); died on 16 May 1704 in , Essex, VA.

    Notes:

    If he is the Thomas Thorpe of Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England, it would explain why he did not move with his father to Kent Co., Maryland in 1680. In colonial days according to Scholastic, children were treated as adults by age 14. Males in Virginia were able to own land and or be taxed at age 16.

    I have 3 cousins on MyHeritage that descend from this Thomas whom triangulate between me and many other Tharp/Thorpe descendants.

    Thomas married Florinda GOODE in 1689 in VA. Florinda was born in 1670 in VA; died in 1717 in Essex, Virginia, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Hannah THARPE was born in 1690 in Essex, Virginia, United States; died in 1730 in Essex, Virginia, United States.
    2. William THARPE was born in 1692 in St Annes, Essex, Virginia, United States; died in 1757 in Essex, VA, USA.
    3. THOMAS THARP\THORPE, III was born in 1695 in St Annes Parish, Essex, Virginia, United States; died in 1765 in St Annes Parish, Essex, Virginia, United States.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas THORPEThomas THORPE was born about 1637 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 17 May 1637 in St Mary, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England (son of Thomas THORPE and Elizabeth); died on 21 Nov 1686 in Kent County, Maryland, United States of America.

    Notes:

    Here is what we know about this Thomas from YDNA results at FTDNA. He is related to Solomon Tharp, b. 1750 of Delaware and other states and to a Zacheas Tharp, b.c. 1750, Botecourt Co., VA and a Jeremiah Tharp of unknown date. Solomon is not the Solomon of Woodbridge, NJ as they are absolutely not related via YDNA testing. The Woodbridge, NJ group is an entirely different YDNA grouping.

    Here is who our Thomas is NOT related to via YDNA.

    1. Haplotype #1: Thomas Thorpe (1631) of Woodbridge, New Jersey; Zebulon Tharp (early 1700's) of Virginia; Benjamin Tharp (abt 1770) of Virginia, Thomas Thorp (1818) of Ontario, Canada; John Jacob Thorp/Tharp (1776) of Morris County, New Jersey.
    3. Haplotype #3: John Henry Tharp (abt 1830) of Somerset County, New Jersey.
    4. Haplotype #4: James Tharp (1799) of Virginia.
    5. Haplotype #5: George Thorpe (late 1700's) of England.
    6. Haplotype #6: William Thorpe (abt 1605) of New Haven, Connecticut.

    Thomas was born in England or Virginia and supposedly lived in Virginia from 1660-1674. Descendants have theorized that he came as an indentured servant in one of the two following possibilities. It is believed that our Thomas came from Virginia before he moved to Maryland as per a Ship's passenger list dated 1683. He bought 200 acres of land in Maryland in 1684 known as Pentridge from Jacob Johnson of Langford Cay (Bay), Kent Co., MD. He paid for it with 4300 pounds of Tobacco indicating that he had land in1683/4 to be able to buy these 200 acres in 1684.

    Here are the theories that he was an indentured servant instead. A Thomas arrived in a party in 1653/1654 where David Philips/Felps of Lancaster Co., VA claimed him and others as headrights. The other persons he claimed could have came from the same area in England. They were Jonathan Humphries, Elizabeth Collins, Thomas Smythson, and Mr. Jonathan Cox. He is the following Thomas. "Thomas Tharpe was born in 1633 in England to William Thorp and his wife, Margaret and was baptized on 28 Oct 1633 in St Michael's Parish, Bassinshaw, London, London, England.

    He arrived in Virginia in 1654 and John Cox sponsored him in Lancaster, VA.

    He married Alice (last name unknown) and they had 3 children---William (b 1662), Thomas (1664-May 1704), and Elizabeth(b 1601). Alice died after 6 Feb 1666/7 in Sittingbourne Parish, Rappahannock County, VA.

    He and Henry (Hendrick) Lucas bought 105 acres for their families in Rappahannock Co, VA on 28 Feb 1662 and again on 20 Oct 1662.

    After Alice died Henry gave (deeded) Alice half of the land that he and Thomas had purchased with the stipulation that the land go to her oldest son, William, when she died so that the land would remain with the family.

    Thomas Thorpe was born before 1642. [1]"

    Another Thomas Thorp came in 1658 instead and was claimed by John Evans of Westmoreland Co., Virginia. Evans claimed headrights on 33 passengers. They were himself, Jonathan Evans Jr., Mary Evans; (all of Westmoreland and then Essex Co., VA) Timothy, Edward and Charles Hill, Robert and Peter Lowe; Stephen, James and Richard Allen; Thomas and John Thorpe; Mary and Elizabeth Lord; Ann and Elizabeth Thompson; Abigail Parker; Barnaby Little; Rice Jones; Thomas Allstone; James Morrison; Leonard Strong; John Batt; John Moyses; John Clerk; Henry King; John Stoile; Edward Shoare; Sarah Voss; Tabitha Hare; Ann Dakin; and Edward Person. Again, if these persons are all from one region in England it could give us a lead back to our Thomas' ancestors. The headright system was for men, women and children at the time. That along with DNA saying we are related to the early Massachusetts group could help us narrow down where both groups are from. Candee Varvil suggests that this Thomas Tharp was from Westmorland, VA and probably ended up in Northumberland, VA and is not likely ours.

    Right now, the only one unaccounted for is the Thomas who emigrated in 1664 to Virginia from immigration records.

    It is important to note that the Virginia Company first started this headright system, where persons who could pay for the passage of "poor" persons to Virginia would not only receive at least 50 acers of land per person, but also had their indentured servitude for their agreed upon number of years.

    The land our Thomas purchased in Kent Co., MD was close to if not on Quaker Neck. Although Thomas was not a Quaker, the Tharps often lived near Quakers and some of them married into Quaker families. A note of interest in Robert L. Tharp's book, is that Thomas is known not to be a Quaker because he started his will with "In the name of God, Amen," a manner never used by Quakers.

    He died before Nov. 21, 1686 in that same county as his will was probated then. In his will he named: son, William, underage; daughter, Elizabeth, probably under age, neither with heirs, son Thomas Thorp, daughter, Mary Thorp. He dispossessed his "rebellious wife Elizabeth Tharp ... because she is gone away in another Country with James Carle and have carried a great parte of my goods along with her and lives in adultery with him." He made his friend, Robert Erick his executor and appointed guardian for his two underage children. He bequeathed him the land meant for William and Elizabeth if they had no heirs. (CL-316)

    When looking on Freereg.org.uk, here are the baptismal dates of any of the Thomas Thorpes that were born in a range to be this Thomas. Obviously his parentage is difficult to discern.

    Thomas THORPE Baptism 25 Apr 1634 Bedfordshire Elstow : St Mary and St Helena : Other Transcript
    Thoms. THORPE Baptism 04 Sep 1636 Yorkshire, East Riding Howden : St Peter : Other Transcript
    Thomas TRAPPE Baptism 23 Oct 1636 Warwickshire Stratford-upon-Avon : Holy Trinity : Phillimore's Transcript
    Thomas TRIPPE Baptism Mar 1637/8 Lincolnshire Barton on Humber : St Peter : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORP Baptism May 1637 Lincolnshire Barton on Humber : St Mary : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 05 Jul 1637 Surrey Newdigate : St Peter : Other Transcript
    Tho. THORPE Baptism 12 Aug 1638 Yorkshire, West Riding Hampsthwaite : St Thomas a Becket : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 24 Feb 1639/40 Norfolk Norwich : St James with Pockthorpe : Parish Register
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 07 Mar 1640/41 Derbyshire Dronfield : St John : Parish Register
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 11 * 1641 Cambridgeshire Littleport : St George : Bishop's Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 10 Nov 1641 Yorkshire, West Riding Crofton : All Saints : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 28 Sep 1642 Surrey Newdigate : St Peter : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 23 Apr 1643 Lincolnshire Heckington : St Andrew : Parish Register
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 18 May 1643 Yorkshire, West Riding Carlton (Snaith) : St Mary : Other Transcript
    Thomas THORPE Baptism 16 Mar 1644/45 Sussex West Grinstead : St George : Parish Register

    Out of these, and the one born in 1640 in Hertfordshire from English baptismal records, all of them except one are accounted for by YDNA, or English records placing them in England when our Thomas was in Maryland.

    The one that disappears from English records in 1661, is a match to our Thomas who could have first arrived in Virginia in 1664. This would explain why he had 4000+ lbs of Tobacco to buy his land in Kent Co., Maryland in 1683. His unknown wife never appears in burial records in England. He has a son Thomas who was born in Lincolnshire, England where he was from whose marriage and death never occur in Lincolnshire either. The fit makes a very strong theory.

    Please note, that there is a John Thorpe whom is a witness for the will of Jacob Lowder in 1696 also in Kent, Maryland that seems like it could be his son.

    Thomas married Elizabeth (NOT POWELL) on 21 Nov 1681 in , Kent, MD. Elizabeth was born before 1642 in of Lincolnshire, England; died about 1689 in , Talbot, MD. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Elizabeth (NOT POWELL) was born before 1642 in of Lincolnshire, England; died about 1689 in , Talbot, MD.
    Children:
    1. 1. Thomas THORPE was born in 1659 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; was christened in Nov 1659 in St Mary, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England; died on 16 May 1704 in , Essex, VA.
    2. Frances THORPE was born about 1660 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; died in Sep 1661 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England.
    3. Mary THORPE was born about 1665 in Isle Of Wight, Isle Of Wight, Virginia, United States; died after 1686 in of Kent, Maryland, British Colonial America.
    4. Elizabeth THARP was born after 1670 in Langford Bay, Kent Co, Maryland, USA; died about 1703.
    5. William THARP was born about 1681 in Langford Bay, Kent, Maryland, USA; died in 1748 in , Talbot, MD.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Thomas THORPE was born in 1612 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 30 Aug 1612 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England (son of William THORPE and Margaret WALKER); died in Mar 1657-1658 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    There are only 3 Thorpes in Lincolnshire, England with appropriate baptismal dates to be this Thomas Thorpe on FreeReg.

    Lincolnshire
    Place (Links to more information) Beckingham
    Church name (Links to more information) All Saints
    Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
    Baptism date 21 sep 1617
    Person forename Thomas
    Person sex M
    Father forename Robert
    Father surname THORPE

    County Lincolnshire
    Place (Links to more information) Boston
    Church name (Links to more information) St Botolph
    Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
    Baptism date 20 Oct 1604
    Person forename Thomas
    Person sex M
    Father forename Richarde
    Father surname THORPE

    Place (Links to more information) Boston
    Church name (Links to more information) St Botolph
    Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
    Baptism date 01 Jun 1600
    Person forename Thomas
    Person sex M
    Father forename Will'm
    Father surname


    There is also a Thomas Thorpe, b. 1612 on Navenby, Lincolnshire, England to a William Thorpe and Margaret Walker according to a Public Member Tree with baptismal dates who would be the closest by age and place to Barton on Humber Thorpes that we are most likely to descend from. Assuming this Thomas was born in Lincolnshire where he lived as an adult, William is the name passed down in this family and is the most likely choice as far as theory building goes. Navenby is the closest place to Barton-on-Humber, Lincolnshire, England, so my theory is that our Thomas is the son of William.

    Thomas married Elizabeth. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth
    Children:
    1. Elizabeth THORPE was born in 1636 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; and died.
    2. 2. Thomas THORPE was born about 1637 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 17 May 1637 in St Mary, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England; died on 21 Nov 1686 in Kent County, Maryland, United States of America.
    3. Hester THORPE was born in 1641 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England; died in Apr 1641 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England.
    4. Francis THORPE died in in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  William THORPE was born in 1585 in Coleby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 9 Apr 1585 in All Saints, Coleby, Lincolnshire, England (son of William THORPE); died in Jun 1633 in Coleby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    William appears to have been baptised in Coleby, England which is 2 miles from Navenby where his children were baptised.

    Christened:
    Event Description: Coleby is 2 miles from where William's children were baptized in Navenby. His parents names were not given.

    William married Margaret WALKER on 10 May 1606 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England. Margaret (daughter of Richard WALKER and Elizabeth WADKENSON) was born in 1585 in Stamford, Lincolnshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Margaret WALKER was born in 1585 in Stamford, Lincolnshire, England (daughter of Richard WALKER and Elizabeth WADKENSON); and died.
    Children:
    1. George THORPE was born before Nov 1606 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 9 Nov 1606 in Navenby, Lincoln, England; and died.
    2. John THORPE was born in 1609 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 18 Feb 1609 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; and died.
    3. 4. Thomas THORPE was born in 1612 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 30 Aug 1612 in Navenby, Lincolnshire, England; died in Mar 1657-1658 in Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England.