Notes:

Professor Dornan theorized that Ann's niece through brother James named Ann was married to Roger Fort. Thanks to info from Bobbie Earle, I theorize that John and Elizabeth had a daughter Ann who was married to Roger Fort instead. Bobbie has quite a bit of data on Ann and Roger and their dates fit perfectly if Ann is the daughter of this John and Elizabeth. She also names children Marmaduke and Joan which are common names in our family. Here are the facts that support my theory that Ann Coate is the daughter of John and Elizabeth Coate. 1) Her supposed birth year, 1673, (which comes from an LDS record) fits into this family correctly and would not have been recorded because the Quakers stopped keeping records in 1673 in the Kingsbury Episcopi meeting. 2) Both she and her husband were from the same Parish of Curry Revell, co. Somerset, ENG. 3) Their first child's name was John (after her father) 4) Her 4th child's name was Marmaduke (after John's brother) and her 5th child's name was Edith after Marmaduke's wife. If she was the youngest daughter of John and Elizabeth, b. about 1673, she would have been about 14/15 when her stepmother, Elizabeth, went to live with sister-in-law, Edith Coate who was widowed in 1687. She would have lived in her uncle Marmaduke's home possibly looking at Edith as a second mother from that time on. That is a logical reason why two of her children were named after this favorite Aunt and Uncle. Her first daughter's name is Joan which is also a common name in her Coate ancestral line. 5) Ann Coate and her husband Roger Fort raised their family in Burlington Co., NJ where related Coate cousins lived. 6) The other Ann Coate b. in 1669 to Marmaduke and Ann Coate was verified as married to William Masters. 7) John had a son James who named a daughter Ann (after his sister?) 8) James's daughter Ann, just mentioned, was born after 1691. If she was the wife of Roger Fort, b. 1669, she would have been a full generation younger than her husband and quite young to have a son in 1706. Even Professor Dornan who had obviously come across a couple named Ann Coate and Roger Fort put a question by whether the Ann Coate, d. of James, could be the wife of Roger Fort. 9) I have a triangulation with small cM segment matches for persons who descend from this Roger Fort and Ann Coate line. It's too small a triangulation for proof but certainly supports Ann as the daughter of John and Elizabeth along with this other evidence..

Anne married Roger FORT on 26 Jan 1701 in New York, New York. Roger (son of Roger FORT and Benina VANE) was born in 1669 in New Hanover, Burlington, New Jersey, United States; died before 13 May 1749 in New Hanover, Burlington, NJ. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Marguerite FORT was born on 12 Nov 1702 in New York, United States; died between 1703 and 1796.
2. Peter FEURT was born on 27 Nov 1703 in New York, United States; died between 1704 and 1793.
3. John FORT was born in 1706 in Burlington, New Jersey, USA; died in 1786 in Burlington, Burlington, New Jersey, USA.
4. Bartholomew FORT was born in 1707 in New York, United States; died between 1708 and 1797.
5. Joseph FORT was born in 1708 in , , NJ; and died.
6. Joan FORT was born in 1710 in , , NJ; died in 1761.
7. Marmaduke FORT was born in 1710 in Hanover Twp., Burlington, NJ, USA; died on 25 Mar 1795 in Hanover Twp., Burlington, NJ, USA.
8. Johanna FORT was born in 1710 in Burlington County, New Jersey; died in 1761.
9. Magdalene FORT was born in 1710 in New York, United States; died between 1711 and 1804.
10. Esther FORT was born after 1710 in , , NJ; died in 1762.
11. Edith FORT was born in 1715 in , , NJ; died in 1761.
12. Roger FORT was born in 1716 in New Jersey, United States; died in 1761.

Notes:

We now have absolute proof that we descend through John's father Henry with another YDNA tester in our Coats Surname Project at FTDNA. This cousin descends from a different son of Henry's that ends up being forced to migrate to Australia. Thank you, Australian cousins for helping to prove this line from 1595 to the present!

I also triangulate with autosomal DNA cousins who descends through John and Elizabeth Coate's daughter, Ann Coate, on chromosome 7 in overlapping segments as our 1st common Coate ancestor, tentatively suggesting our descent from John and Elizabeth. Back in this distance of time, the cM's segment match length is small enough that it can't currently prove the descent. I expect that the fact that we triangulate improves the statistical proof, but we will have to wait till the mathematics in this field also improves to know for sure. I would guess that John's mother's name could be Elizabeth from his 2 daughter's names. Ann would have been named after his mother-in-law, JoAnn.

Here are the facts that we do know about John Coate. He was the father of our Samuel Coate of Somerset Co., England; Newtown, PA and Hunterdon Co., NJ proven by the fact that Samuel was given 200 acres of his father, John Coate's land in Newtown, Pennsylvania via letter dated August, 1699 from Somerset, England one month before John Coate died in England. John was married to Elizabeth Humphreys in England and had the following children: John, Henry, James, Samuel, and Elizabeth. His children's births are registerd as being from the Kingsbury Episcopi M.M., Middle Divison of the Somerset Quarterly Meeting in England. Quaker records were only kept in their monthly meeting from 1665-1673. They list both John and Elizabeth as parents. They are listed right before his nephew Marmaduke married to Ann Pole's children are listed in this Middle Division of the Somerset Monthly Meeting records all in the same hand. They likely were transcribed from their Monthly Meeting records kept until 1673. It is known that they had four small children and one on the way in 1672 when it was recorded that his house had been burnt down and his wife was expecting. This matches well with the birth dates of his children. However, he could have had more children from 1673 onward that were not in the records. One source lists him with a daughter named Ann. This fits well with info on descendants of an Ann Coate (1673-1762) married to a Roger Fort (1669-1749) in the United States. (E)

He lived in Lambrook, England, which adjoins the town of Curry Rivel on the east. He is often listed in the Illchester Monthly Meeting Minutes or Southern Division Monthly Meeting Minutes as it was known beginning in 1670.

Other events in his lifetime are as follows.

1668 His wife, Elizabeth Coate, sister to John Humphries, was reprimanded for being married by a priest indicating that John was not a Quaker at the time of his marriage. Kingsbury MM, Somerset, England.

1670 8mo 27d In Somerset: "In this Year the following Persons were committed to Prison at Ilchester for refusing to pay Tithes, ... Impropriator: John Coate, at the suit of Samuel Tilley." http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

1671 2mo 27d In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

25d 7mo 1672 In the Southern Division MM minutes, a request was made to other area meetings to aid and assist John Coate, whose "afflicted condition" had resulted from his imprisonment, the burning of his home and property, his indebtedness, his responsibility for his 4 small children, "one of them having been scalded near to death and his wife also being near her time."

1672 12mo 29 In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

1676 12mo 24 In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

1678 On 28 of month 3 (May), John Coat of Lambrook was at the Bishop's Court on the same day that Quaker John Whiting was questioned for not paying tithes, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

1678 (4mo: Park) At Somerset, "Beside those already mentioned, there had been imprisoned for Tithes, some Years before John Whiting's Commitment, John Coate, John Smith, Thomas Ridiout of Mark, and Walter Hodges of Kingsbury. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

1679 5mo 31d In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

1680 2mo 29d "For a Meeting at Gregory-Stoke: John Cuffe, John Pinny, Francis Scott, and John Coate, were fined

John married Elizabeth HUMPHREYS on 29 Dec 1663 in Kingsbury M.M., Somerset, ENG. Elizabeth (daughter of Johanas (John) HUMPHREY and Joan) was christened on 11 Jul 1647 in , Somerset, ENG; died before 1686 in Kingsbury, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her name is definitely Elizabeth Humphreys. According to Quaker records when she is listed as the wife of John, her birthdate is given as July 7, 1647. She is listed as the mother of John's children in the 1660's in Somerset Co., England. Her surname is proven to be Humphries because of the following extracts from Minute Book 1 of Illchester M.M. in county Somerset, England. "15/12/1668 7th minute, from Kingsbury Meeting, "That Thomas Budd and George Taylor do again go and visit James Humprheys and Elizabeth Coate, his sister, and in God's love, warn them again to clear their conscience by their obedience to the truth, and that they no longer absent or withdraw themselves from the assemblies of God's people." 25/12/1668, "That Thomas Budd and George Taylor do again go and visit James Humprheys and Elizabeth Coate, his sister ...and that Elizabeth, as she is in a capacity, come to the Friend's Monthly or give forth a testimony against her being married by a priest."

Further evidence has been found in the Southern Divison Quarterly Meeting Records which transferred data from the Monthly Meeting records into lists by one recorder. In the middle of the listing for John and Elizabeth Coate's children, her brother James Humphries and previously unknown wife Joan is listed with the birth of their daughter Joane Humphries. Her brother James is then listed in the baptismal records for the Church of England as from Kingsbury Episcopi and the son of John and Joane Humfry. Then to put the cherry on the cake, she and husband John Coate, named their first child John after her father. This was the most common Quaker naming pattern.

Elizabeth did not ever come to America. She might be the Elizabeth Coate, widow, who died in the month called Feb of 1720/21 in Hambridge according to Somerset Quarterly Monthly Meeting Records for Somerset Co., England. (1720 In month 12, Eliz. Coate of Hambridge, died. [http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm] ) The problem with this is there is a John Coate of New Towne, Pennsylvania who was listed free of marriage engagements when he requested a return to England in the 1686. Therefore, I am accepting the theory that he was married twice, both times to an Elizabeth. (C-199, 253c)

Notes:

All historical research led us to believe that our Coate line went back through this Henry to his father Marmaduke. We now have a wonderful YDNA match from a cousin in Australia whom has only 1 point out of 37 DNA points different from us. It proves we descend from this Henry Coate, The Elder, who is the most recent common ancestor we have in common. I am so grateful for this. We finally know for certain after 40 years of research via DNA. How truly wonderful!

He is often called Henry "the Elder" or Henry C. in family member trees. I have seen no actual proof of either. It's possible that he is the Henry "The Elder" listed as the father of an Elizabeth when she married John Podger in Burton, Drayton, England, but this remains to be proven. John or Elizabeth Podger or their children are NOT in this Henry's will. I have therefore given him the name Henry Coate of Hambridge to distinguish him from the Henry of Burton in Drayton Parish, Somerset, England.

Henry named 5 children in his will, among them Marmaduke and John. He wrote his will on Aug 8, 1661 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, England and is listed by the title of Yeoman. It was proved in January of 1663 at Taunton. Henry Coate of Hambridge in the Parish of Curry Rivel within the County of Somerset, Yeoman, by his will gave: To his son Henry "wearing apperel and one pair of boots and 20 pounds." To his son John "four score pounds and one bedstead voer the entry and my best feather bed with one pair of sheets, one pair of blankets and cover bed and two bolsters there unto belonging": and several other articles of furniture, etc. Unto his daughter Rachel 10 shillings, Unto his daughter Mary 10 shillings, Unto his grandchild Jane Counsell 8 pounds, Unto grandchildren William Sugge, John Perry, Henry Perry, John Jermane, Jonathan Coate, Mary Coate, Elizabeth Coate, Mary Sugge, and Edith Coate 20 pounds each Unto Jane Rowsewell his grandchid one shilling. The rest of his goods and chattels he gave to his son Marmaduke whom he made sole executor of his estate. (C-253c) His known 3 sons all became Quakers through marriage in some cases and some of his daughters. They typically attended the Kingsbury Episcopi Monthly Meeting which was fairly small. They all had interconnections as their children married. The burial page for this monthly meeting in the Somerset Quarterly Meeting Records for the Southern Division included less than 30 people most of whom became related as they married. One small family of Humphries were amongst this group, Elizabeth Humphrey marrying John Coate. Other Coate's that remained in Curry Rivel, England remained faithful to the Church of England in that time period. The fact that the will remains means that he was considered one of the wealthy and his will had been transcribed in another site saving it from the bombings of World War II.

I am descended through his son John married to Elizabeth. As for autosomal DNA we also have small segment matches because of the distance back in time. A cousin is descended through the Marmaduke married to Edith that I have sorted as the son of this Henry Coate named Linda Midgett W. Blum. I'd like to know if we and a Joseph Edge are related through DNA as he descends from Marmaduke and Edith Coate. I have found an autosomal DNA triangulation with cousins who descend from this Henry through other children than I do. It is considered tentative back in this period of time because of the small size of the shared DNA and distance in time. They are 7th cousins to my Uncle for Henry Coate 1595, chromosome16, segments 28234964-34708422 7C, Gedmatch Kits M935084, Z397630, A497476. In any case, Y-DNA has now proved the connection so the autosomal DNA is just icing on the cake.

Henry married UNKNOWN after 1616. died before 1662. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her name is Jane Batholomew according to Steven T. Ernst on ancestry.com. Her name is Emily Jane according to the Joseph Edge Family Tree. She is the first spouse of Henry Coate according to some trees with his other spouse being Joan Combstork/Comstock. If he also was married to a Joan Combstock that occurred on Apr. 28, 1656 in the Parish of Drayton. No wife is mentioned in Henry's will.

Notes:

We know that John is the father of our Elizabeth Humphries because he is listed as her father in her brother James' christening record. We knew her birthdate from Somerset Quaker records previously. I have found only a few other siblings for them in the records in Kingsbury or Drayton where Joane died. With the gap in their ages, it's highly likely that they had other siblings not in the published records or that their mother had a series of miscarriages.

John is listed as the son of a Humfrie in the Kingsbury Episcopi records if he is the Johannes baptized in 1620 there. Kingsbury Episcopi is where most of the earliest Humfry's in co. Somerset, England can be found. There are several possible father's of this John in Kingsbury at the time. They are George, b. 1597, son of Thomas; Peeter b. 1597, son of William; and James b. 1595 who married Johane Denman in 1614. James was the son of William b. 1595 according to Somerset baptismal records. Both the names James and Peter are repeated in this family with James being the more common choice and Peter repeated only once.

I'm working off the theory that our John is the son of James as he names his first born son James. The only other possibilities I've found are 1) a John and Mary that married in 1613 in Drayton, Somerset, England, 2) a John and Agnis Humfry that married in Drayton in 1610 or 3) An Edward and Havis Hue Humfrey who married in Drayton in 1623. The best fit and theory is that John is the son of James b. 1595.

Johanas married Joan before 1647. Joan was born before 1632 in Of Wiltshire, England; died on 3 Aug 1679 in Drayton Parish, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She is listed as the spouse of John Humfry when she died in Drayton. Her mother's name is likely Elizabeth and that is where the name of their first daughter came from.

Notes:

The oldest Coate in Somerset, England according to I.G.I. records is a Robert Cotes, b. abt 1140 in Fairbanks, Somerset, England. His daughter Margaret, was supposedly born in Cotes, Eccelshall, Staffordshire, England suggesting he might have come from Eccelshall. Staffordshire is the county where the oldest Cotes are known to have originated. If these trees are correct, then it's entirely possible that our Marmaduke goes back from Cotes of early Staffordshire, England in the Eccelshell branch. YDNA evidence supports his ancient lines going back to Staffordshire.: The best theory we have for our Coate line is that it descends through this Robert, b 1140. Fairbanks was in Somerset or Shropshire depending upon time frame and is 130 miles from the oldest known Coate's who lived in Bridgwater, Somerset, England.

Early Coates would have been more likely to travel south from Fairbanks to the Bristol Channel and go to Bridgewater by ship. Then the land travel would have been more like 80 miles of distance.: Marmaduke's name in his marriage to Marie was spelled Cote. He married Marie Somner on Nov. 6, 1575 in Weston Zoyland, 3 miles from where he lived in Curry Rivel. They supposedly raised their children in Curry Rivel. (See further explanation below.): Marmaduke's will was written on Mar 4 1617 when he is listed "of Curry Revel". This 1617 date is the oldest date I've seen for the Coate name appearing in Curry Rivel, suggesting the family could have come from another Parish before that time period. It named his wife, Mary, and sons, William (a legacy), Thomas, (a legacy) and Henry (pasture in Bindiche "together with common of Estones in the same Bindiche to have and to hold the said Henry Coate for and during the residue of the terms of four score years..." and daughters, Rachel and Mary and two grandchildren through his son William named John and Joane. (C-253c)

This Marmaduke's wife's name has been listed as Mary/Marie Skinner by theory since Marie named kin Alice Skinner in her will. Other than that, there is no evidence of same. Skinner would have likely been Alice's married name.: I've finally found his marriage record. It was extremely difficult to decifer in an odd old English script. In an index of Somerset marriage records, his wife is listed as Maxine Flinner in 1575 in Weston Zoyland. Weston Zoyland was 3 miles from Curry Rivel, England. I had been studying all original documents on Coates in Somerset for 4 months when I found this marriage for Marmaduke Cote and Maxine Flinner and could immediately see the first name was mistranscribed. Her first name was Marie. Upon a serious study of her surname, I discovered it was Smner in the efficient manner the clerk had. There are multiple Somners in the area that marry in Weston Zoyland. Please study the following important records.: (See ex: [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60856/42886_1831109331_1079-00031/3274786?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family- tree/person/tree/156863795/person/112065703116/facts/citation/522095021473/edit/record] for the original marriage record. Then study the uncommon letter styles the recorder used at the following site to discern the name of Marmaduke's wife: https://fh.familysearch.org/system/files/team/AIT/fsinformation/Resource_Guide/en/Old_English.pdf. The small r in Marie that the recorder used looks like an x. Small e's look a bit like a small o. The S he used at the beginning of several persons of the same surname as Marie used the Capital S that is the 23rd choice out of 26 choices on page 5 of the website linked above. It looks like a printed Fl to the untrained eye. Then to make it that much harder, the clerk of courts left out letters or abbreviated names in the interest of efficiency and spelled her last name Smner. His version of William on the pages looks like Wittm. He even used 2 different capital S's in his work to further complicate matters too. I had spent the entire summer deciphering old English script to sort all of the Coats in Somerset, England. Her name is definitely Marie Somner and certainly is difficult to translate correctly. It's why it took so long to find! There were 2 other siblings or cousins who married within a couple years of her. One was Francis Somner/Smner to Joan Bragge in 1575 and the other was William (?h)inge and Margaret Somner/Smner in 1577 all in Weston Zoyland.

The original name Coate first appeared in the highlands of Scotland between 800 and 1000 A.D. as Coutts, Coats, and Coates. They were a sept or sub-clan of the Farguharson Clan which branched from the clan Shaw in Scotland. (C-2021). To see where these clans lived, there is a site on the Internet that has an appropriate map at ysiwyg://102/htt;://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3145/scotmap.h tml. This clan was one of the most faithful supporters of the "House of Stewart". (C-2247 b, c):

The first person of this name that has been found in England was in 1167, when Thomas de Cotes was knighted. He held land in the hamlet of Cotes in Staffordshire. The Coat of Arms of a Cock with the motto "Watchful and Bold" was adopted later by this family. (C-614L): The surname has been stated to have one of two meanings. 1) Cot or Cote meaning hut as in cottage or coat as in garment. 2) Coed/coid meaning wood. Until the 17th century, the name was usually spelled Cotes in England. (C-2158): It's important to note, that English records before 1642 are rare for baptismal, marriage and burial making it a bit difficult to trace previous to this date. Some will records existed before 1642 and many of all of these records were in Latin. Marmaduke's name appears to have been Marmaduci in some Curry Rival records because of this.: Even though this ancestral couple is so far back from us, there are tentative indications where DNA is suggesting we have our line traced correctly through the best current technique which is triangulation. They are as follows:: Marmaduke Coate bef 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 12: 20465327-21761436 2.2 cM's, Gedmatch #'s Z397630, M134445, A631906 : Marmaduke Coate bef 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 12: 21064601-21865495 gedcom's 595579, 299684 Gedmatch #'s Z397630, T455875, M134445: Marmaduke Coate 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 20: 18944125-19594148 8C/Niece gedcom's: 595579, 299684, 194406, Gedmatch #'s: Z397630, T455875, M134445: Even better, we have the best proof that you can get via an Australian cousin's YDNA which shows us that we are absolutely both descended from Henry Coate "The Elder", Marmaduke and Marie's son. That is the Most Recent Common Ancestor for them and many persons in our YDNA group at FTDNA including me.


Here are the Coate's of Curry Rivel records as they are currently published in 2016 thanks to familysearch.com.: Alise COAT Burial 2 OCT 1657 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Suzan COAT Burial 6 MAR 1664/5 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Alice? COAT Burial 30 OCT 1679 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: John COAT Burial 6 JAN 1692/3 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Joane COAT- Baptism:06 Sep 1696 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Rebecca COAT Burial 26 JUL 1696 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT- Baptism:23 Apr 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:23 Apr 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT Burial 2 MAY 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:25 Mar 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Aubrey COAT- Baptism:13 Jun 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT Burial 30 JUL 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:16 Sep 1701 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Jeffrey COAT- Baptism:18 Oct 1701 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT- Baptism:20 Aug 1702 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Anne COAT- Baptism:02 Sep 1703 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Isaac COAT- Baptism:09 Jan 1703/4 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Jacob COAT: Baptism 09 Jan 1703/4 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:26 Oct 1704 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Isaac COAT Burial 21 MAY 1704 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:23 Aug 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: * COAT- Baptism:17 Nov 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT Burial 20 APR 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Sarah COAT Burial 29 APR 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT: Thomas COOK Marriage 20 Feb 1706 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:06 Mar 1705/6 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Moses COAT- Baptism:31 Aug 1707 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Moses COAT Burial 20 FEB 1707/8 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Ambrose? COAT Burial 30 MAY 1708 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth WEBB: Jacob COAT Marriage 01 Mar 1739 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: John COAT- Baptism:07 Sep 1740 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth COAT Burial 6 Sep 1741 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth TAYLOR: Aaron COAT Marriage 05 Nov 1742 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth COAT: Thomas SEAGAR Marriage 25 Mar 1753 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register].


Birth:
Event Description:

Marmaduke married Marie SOMNER on 6 Nov 1575 in Weston Zoyland, Somerset, England. Marie (daughter of Richard? SOMNER) was born about 1562 in Maperton, Somerset, England; died in 1631 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; was buried in Currie Rivell, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

I finally found the marriage record for this Marmaduke and Marie. In the index, her name is listed as Maxine Flinner, but when you enlarge the original book it's in, it looks like Marie Smner. This clerk left out vowels when not needed phonetically. In this case the S is represented by 2 small f looking letters. It's possible that it is how the clerk wrote Skinner, which is the same name in the soundex search on freereg.org.uk as Somner but the small k would normally be very flowery and was a very simple uncrossed f looking letter in her marriage record. We don't believe the double f letters represent f in this case as there were not translations for fnner or fmner in all of Somerset in freereg.org.uk.

She wrote her will on Nov. 2, 1626 in Curry Rivel, Co. Somerset as a widow. She named all the children and the number of grandchildren she had by each child in her will which was probated in 1631. These included her son, William Coate and his 4 children (William, Cresset); her son, Thomas Coate and his 3 children (Mary, Joan and Elizabeth); her daughter Rachel German and her 3 children; to John Woodborne's 3 children, to Mary Woodborne, daughter of John Woodborne, to John the son of John Woodborne; to Joane Woodborne, the daughter of John Woodborne; to her son Henry Coate a chest in the hall and after his decease to his son Marmaduke Coate; and to her kinswoman, Alice Skinner. (Note: Alice Skinner is likely the Alse Skinner, widow who died in Dunster, Somerset, England and was buried there in St. George Parish on Aug 12, 1632. Many Skinner's lived in Dunster. She could also have had her surname misinterpreted and be the Alse Somer who died in 1638 in Othery, Somerset, England who was a widow.) She gave the rest of her goods after division of her debts to John Woodborne and Henry Coate. She named these last 2 her executors. She does not explain her relationship to John Woodborne, father of Mary, John and Joan Woodborne in her will. Her name was spelled Marie Coate in this document. (I believe they are great grand children via a marriage record dated 1655 to a Marmaduke Coate indicating Mary Woodborne was born before 1626 and was a gr. granddaughter by age.) The witnesses to this will were Roger Cole, William Sawble and William Sawellysis with his mark of an X. I'm assuming because she thinks so highly of John Woodborne, that his wife was a deceased daughter of her and Marmaduke Coate's. Her kinswoman, Alice Skinner was likely near her age with Skinner being her married name. The will was proved in Taunton in 1631.

The fact that it and any of these Somerset wills that I have summarized in my Somerset Coate records survived the bombings of World War II says that they had 2nd copies hand transcribed at an alternate location near the time they were created sent to Taunton, Somerset, England. All wills of the wealthy were duplicated and sent to Taunton. Those did not get bombed in World War II.

Her most likely parent is a Rich/Richard Somner/Sommer from Othery which is 3.6 miles from Weston Zoyland where Marmaduke and Mary married. It is now a part of Bridegwater where Marmaduke Coate was from before he and Mary settled in adjacent Curry Rivell. Here is how the Somner's are grouped in Othery, Bridgewater and Weston Zoyland

Mary Smner/Somner b. bef 1560 m. Marmaduke Coate in 1575 in Weston Zoyland.

Francis Smner/Somner b. bef 1560 m. Joan Bragge in 1575 in Weston Zoyland

Margaret Smner/Somer b. bef 1562 m. William (?h)inge in 1577 in Weston Zoyland

Alice Somner buried Apr 4, 1551, d. of Richard Somner in Baltonsborough, Bridgewater, England which is 13 miles from Othery

William Somner, baptized Mar 24, 1551/2 in Baltonsborough, son of Richard

Joan d. of Richard, b. 1560 in Othery (Joan Somner and John Howell married in 1598)

Isabell d. of Richard, b. 1561 in Othery

Thomas s. of Rich Sommer baptized 1563

Richard s. of Richard Sommer baptized 1574

Richard d. 1590

John Somer, b. 1560 in Bridgwater, Somerset, England. Father unlisted.

Jone, b. 1562, in Bridgwater. Father unlisted.

Robert b 1564 in Bridgwater. Father unlisted.

Mary Somer b. 1562 in Maperton, Somerset which is 26 miles from Weston Zoyland where Mary married Marmaduke Coate if this is the same Mary.

Richard Cox and (H)abell Somner m. in 1562

Robert s. of John Sommer baptized 1570

William Sommer and Joan Cox m. in 1569

Thomas s. of William baptized 1571

Robert s. of William Sommer baptized 1576

Mary Somer b. 1574 to unknown parents in Bridgewater (She is not our Mary)

William Cox and Elizabeth Sommer in 1572

Mary Sommer and Bartabyn Willaway m. in 1577 in Bridgewater

Walter Somer and Elizabeth Harris in 1587

Joan d. of Walter baptized 1592

Richard s. of Walter Sommer baptized 1597

John s. of Walter baptized 1602

Robert s. of M.W. Sommer baptized 1589

Joan d. of Ales Sommer baptized 1590 (Joan Somner and Joseph Adezfee in 1604)

Ales Somner and Thomas Fane m. on 21 Apr 1594John s. of John Somner baptized 1595

Sabilla d. of Jo. Sommer baptized and buried 1599

Margaret Somner and John Cox were married in 1596

Mary Sommer d. 1603 in Bridgewater

Joan, d. of Edward Sommer/Somner baptized 1605

William Sommer and Joan Cox m. in 1612

William s. of Edward baptized 1613, Jul 13

Thomas s. of Edward baptized 1613, Jul 13Thomas s. of John baptized 1616 (Thomas is probably the grandson of Walter or John above)

Not all of their births are accounted for in the church records of Othery including Mary Somner's b. bef 1563.

Notes:

It is theory that James is the father of our John. The other choices are a John and Elizabeth Humphrey in Kingsbury Episcopi that were married in 1588, a George b. 1557 and a Thomas b. 1563.

Jacob married Johane DENMAN on 14 Nov 1614 in Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset, England. Johane (daughter of DENMAN) was born about 1593 in Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]