John COATE

John COATE

Male 1707 - 1776  (69 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John COATE was born on 11 Sep 1707 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG (son of William COATT and Deborah POWELL); died on 10 Nov 1776 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.

    Notes:

    The following record might apply to this John Coate, if Samuel Powell turns out to be a relative of John Coate's mother, Deborah Powell.PA Will Book M #199 p. 349Will of Samuel PowellPhiladelphiaBrass founderwife Marthagift to brothers and sisters but doesn't name themdated 1753wit John Coats, James Kinsay (also spelled Kinsey in here)probated 1762

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John COATE, Senior was born before 1722 in Of Drayton Parish, Somerset, England; died in Feb 1761 in Drayton Parish, Somerset, England; was buried on 13 Feb 1761 in St. Catherine, Drayton, Somerset, England.
    2. Ann COATE was born in 1723 in Drayton, Somerset, England; was christened on 13 Dec 1723 in St. Catherine, Drayton, Somerset, England; and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William COATTWilliam COATT was born on 6 Jan 1671 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG (son of Marmaduke COATE and Edith GILLING); died on 21 Mar 1748 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.

    Notes:

    He is the William Coate of Greinton who died on Jan. 21, 1747/8 as stated in Parker's Papers. (Collins BK.) and in Park's book on Marmaduke Coate. He is listed as William Peter Coate in Odessa Collins book the same way he is listed in the "Old Coats Genealogy." He is one of the persons in that genealogy that is verified in the first hand documents I've found. (C-1665, 1670) After his marriage to Deborah, he moved to her hometown of Greinton which was about ten miles from where he grew up in Hambridge.

    He was an active Quaker and was persecuted for not paying tythes in 1702, 1703, 1704, 1712 and 1717. This involved imprisonment in the years 1702, 1705 and 1713. (Besse's Sufferings)

    His children were all born in the Middle Division of Quaker Somerset Quarterly Meeting records. At least one of his children is believed to have moved to the American colonies, William. Most of his other children are mentioned in the following will in 1733 in Glastonbury, Somerset Co., England."58/1/ 6/1734 Probate of will (1733) of William Blackmore of Glastonbury, yeoman, devising two commons allotted in Common Moor, Glastonbury to kinsman Samuel Blackmore of Glastonbury, 2a at Edmunds Hill, Glastonbury to sister-in-law Hester Blackmore of Glastonbury for life then to Sarah Newman and 5a at West Backwere, messuage in High St., messuage in Butt Town and other estate to son-in-law John Clothier, his executor. Cash legacies to the children of his brother James decd., by his last wife and son William by a former wife, to his sister Susannah Cockram and her children, to his sister Jane White and her children, the four younger sons of his sister Ann Morse decd., the two daughters of his sister Elizabeth Hensle, the daughter of John Hensle the younger of Dulverton decd., to his sister Dorothy, Elizabeth daughter of John Witherill of Ilminster, Jane Walker and Ann Stowey of Glastonbury, servant Thomas Doble, Mary Hensle of Glastonbury, George Fulson, John Hucker and Henry Dyer of Glastonbury, John and Marmaduke sons of William Coate, silver spoons to Hannah, Rachel and Edith Coate, cash, furniture of parlour chamber and other furnishings to Joan Merriott of Glastonbury, cash, his bed and furnishings to maid Jane Scott and ? 20 to the Quakers for the poor of the county. Clothing to son-in-law John Clothier of Street. Proved 1734. (1 doc.)"http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/lists/ddlists/ddfs.txt

    William married Deborah POWELL on 8 May 1702 in Middle Division M.M., Somerset, ENG. Deborah (daughter of Thomas POWELL) was born before 1685 in Of Greinton, Somerset, ENG; died on 5 Jun 1744 in Kingsbury M.M., Somerset, ENG. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Deborah POWELLDeborah POWELL was born before 1685 in Of Greinton, Somerset, ENG (daughter of Thomas POWELL); died on 5 Jun 1744 in Kingsbury M.M., Somerset, ENG.

    Notes:

    She was listed from Grienton and her husband from Curry Rivel when they married. She and her husband attended the Polden Hill Monthly Meeting where their births are recorded in the Middle Division Meeting records. This like other Quaker Meetings of the time were quite small. A Thomas and Elinor Powell had a son Thomas on Jun 14, 1663 recorded in this meeting that is the likely to be her father and grandparents from their ages, place of residence and religion. William Coate would have become Quaker by the time he married Deborah as their children's births were recorded shortly after they were born. She is listed as Deborah Coate, wife of William Coate, in her Quaker death record. Her name is misinterpreted as Jeberah in the index to England Quaker records.

    Children:
    1. Thomas COATE was born on 11 Sep 1703 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died in Dec 1734 in Goathurst, Somerset, England; was buried on 8 Dec 1734 in St. Edward, Goathurst, Somerset, England.
    2. Marmaduke COATE was born on 3 Nov 1705 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died in 1705 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.
    3. 1. John COATE was born on 11 Sep 1707 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 10 Nov 1776 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.
    4. William COATS was born on 12 Sep 1708 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died in 1797 in Kingwood, Hunterdon, New Jersey, USA.
    5. Marmaduke COATE was born on 30 Sep 1711 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died in 1795 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.
    6. Hannah COATE was born on 16 Jan 1714 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died after 1735 in Of Co. Somerset, ENG.
    7. Rachell COATE was born on 11 Apr 1715 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 9 Oct 1743 in Greinton, Somerset, England.
    8. Edith COATE was born on 27 Nov 1720 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 12 Jul 1747 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.
    9. Mary COATE was born on 6 Mar 1722 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 20 Oct 1722 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG; was buried in Polden Hill, Somersetshire, ENG.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Marmaduke COATE was born on 8 Sep 1634 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG (son of Henry COATE, of Hambridge and UNKNOWN); died on 22 Jun 1686 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG.

    Notes:

    Although the Park book gives the lineage of Marmaduke Coate to be as chosen, an alternative parentage is in Professor Dornans notes. It states that both Marmaduke and John (who married Elizabeth Humphries) are the sons of John Coate of Curry Rivel who married Julian Stone of Martock on July 27, 1628. (C-995) A third alternative is in the United Ancestries Linked Pedigrees on the Automated Archives CD disk 100. According to it, Marmaduke Coate who married an Edith Satterwaite, was born at an estimate of 1643. His parents were John Peter Coate and Emily Jane Buckingham. (C-400)

    CD-100 follows the old Coate's genealogy but trys to improve on it's date errors. In this line Marmaduke and Edith Satterthwait had: Archibald, Thomas, Henry, Sampson, Mary Jane, Ann and James (twins), John, Samuel, Sarah Jane, Hannah, Marmaduke, William Peter and Edith. (C-336) Son Marmaduke married Ann Pole. Son Thomas, b. 1641 moved to Ireland to avoid persecution. Thomas's son Moses, b. 1687, married Susannah Weldon, and moved to Pennsylvania founding Coatesville, Pennsylvania. We don't yet have any DNA evidence to confirm or deny this connection to the Moses/Susannah Weldon Coates line. (C-541) Thomas's son's James, b. 1679 and Moses, b. 1687 were threadmakers. This was possibly the beginning of the line related to the two brothers who founded the J & P. Coats Thread Company, James Coats, b. 1803 and Peter Coats, b. 1779. All of Thomas's children, the threadmakers and the founder of Coatesville might be cousins to the Marmaduke who married Ann Pole. (C-418)

    Here is why I've chosen the theory I have as to his parentage. 1) This Marmaduke can't be the son of William who named his son Marmaduke and grandson Marmaduke in his 1658 will because of Marmaduke's newly found baptismal record. The baptisms in this family took place while the children were babies of 1 week to a couple months. 2) CD-100 has much 2nd hand sourcing and is full of errors on the Coate line. It said that he was the son of John Peter Coate and Emily Jane Buckingham. We've found NO proof of same. 3) I'm still not ruling out that he could be the son of John Coate married to Julian Stone. The name Julian however, is not carried down in the children's names, nor does it explain a "kinsman" connection between John and Marmaduke that is referred to in Quaker documents of the time. 4) The name of Henry (Marm's possible father) and Edith (his wife) are carried down in this line.

    Marmaduke who married Edith was from Hambridge, Somersetshire, England. Though his wife's surname is often listed as Satterwaite or Fell, I believe he is the Marmaduke who married Edith Gilling in marriage records of the area. While his son Marmaduke was young sometime after 1674, he and Edith became "convinced on the truth" and raised their children as Quakers. (C-994)

    Marmaduke was an honest, faithful Quaker who suffered over fifteen years in prison for his faith and lost most of his property by fines imposed for his religious beliefs. (C-614e) His prison experience is documented in the following Quaker records:1668: Marmaduke was imprisoned for withholding tithes.1676: "Marmaduke Coate of Hambridge, imprisoned in the 6th moneth 1670 upon an Attachment out of the Exchequer, upon Contempt, as charged, to the Suit of Robert Bambury Impropriator, for not paying Tythes." "Prisoners upon the Account of Truth in the county of Somerset at Ivelchester the 26th Day of the 11th Moneth, 1676."1669-1687: Quaker meetings were literally held at the Ilchester prison for most of this period. The minutes were taken inside this prison.1685: According to a Quaker petition, Marmaduke had been imprisoned for a total of 15 years, 7 months, and 23 days.

    He was a prisoner at the time of the proclamation of general pardon by King James, when Friends were released by hundreds. (C-543c,614f)June 22 1686??: This date is very difficult to read in the original Kingsbury Episcopi Monthly Meeting records because the 22 could be an 11 and because someone in dark ink wrote over the original year with the number 7.

    He couldn't have died in June of 1687 because his will was probated in April of 1687.1687: Marmaduke's will was proved at Taunton. He is listed as of Curry Rivel. He made bequests to sons Marmaduke and William; daughters Edith, Jane, Elizabeth, and Ann; and widow Edith, the executrice. Note that only one daughter named Jane is listed and we don't know which one this applies too. (It should be noted that only 2 of his daughters, Hannah (died previously) and Anne and son William had their birth records recorded after the fact in the Mid-Somerset Quarterly Meeting records.)

    He and his wife Edith, were listed "of Hambrige" when their daughter's, Jane, married in 1686 and Elizabeth, married in 1693. Naturally he was listed as deceased in this 1693 marriage. This is important to note as consistently, he is listed as the Marmaduke "of Hambridge" in the records, meaning that there was only one adult Marmaduke living in Hambridge at the time - even at his death in 1687/1689.

    His birthdate has been in question. I've also seen it listed as March 8, 1624 occurring in River, co. Kent, England on a site by Steven T. Ernst at ancestry.com. Please note that there were probably two other marriages for Marmaduke in the Parish of Curry Rivel. A Marmaduke married Ann Lock on June 24, 1651. He also married Joan Woodbourne, d.of John Woodbourne on June 25, 1655. The other possibility is that there were at least two Marmadukes of similar age in Curry Rivel. I find this later idea the most unlikely as town clerks typically distinguished how they described a person if there was a duplication of names in their parish. Also, Marmaduke's daughters names of Ann and Jane would indicate they are all wives of one Marmaduke. Close by in North Petherton, Somersetshire there was another Marmaduke Coat who married Sarah Strong of Curry-Revell on March 9, 1702. (C-995)

    I have found a Thomas Coate, son of Marmaduke who was christened in Curry Rivel on Feb. 11, 1659/1660 that could apply to any of these. Marmaduke's death date is listed as 4m 22d 1687 (transcribed as Jun 22,1687 in the Quaker dating system) in the Somerset Quarterly Meeting records for England, but this does not coincide with the probate of his estate which was Apr 4, 1687. Quaker records were often written down years after the fact and are known to have errors. He is listed as Marmaduke Coate of Hambridge in this record.

    Marmaduke married Edith GILLING on 13 Sep 1658 in Mark Parish, Curry Rivel, Somerset, ENG. Edith was born before 1642 in Of Somerset, England; died on 24 Dec 1718 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Edith GILLINGEdith GILLING was born before 1642 in Of Somerset, England; died on 24 Dec 1718 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG.

    Notes:

    Edith's maiden name is listed as a Fell, Satterwaite or Maxwelton in 2nd hand sources. After exhaustive years of research, I have reached a different conclusion. I theorize that she is Edith Gilling who is the only listed marriage record of an Edith to a Marmaduke Coate of Hambridge in the Parish of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England. The supporting evidence for this theory is: 1) Hambrige was a very small burg in the same Parish where Marmaduke was born in 1634. 2) It has been my experience that the clerks in the courts knew everyone in these small towns. They would describe the person they were referring to in such a way as to distingish them from anyone else of the same name. (Ex. Little John, Big John, Georgia John, John of Edgefield, etc.) In this case, the only adult male of that name who lived in Hambridge called Marmaduke is listed as Marmaduke of Hambridge in multiple court records from Marmaduke's marriage to his death.

    A transcription of their marriage record follows: "Groom Marmaduke COATE status - of Hambridge, - Bride Edith GILLING status - of the parish, - married on 13 SEP 1658 at parish Mark: " (Source: www.familyhistoryonline.com, from email by gccoles@aol.com). 3) Their marriage record of 1658 has likely thrown other researchers off because his Quaker obituary says he was born in 1652. It was submitted after his death at an elderly age.

    These obituraries notoriously had poor birthdates and "facts" in them. His parents were not of the Quaker faith nor were Quaker records kept in this region until 1667. He was not of the Quaker faith until after his marriage. I suggest that Marmaduke Jr's birthdate was simply not known by his Quaker community. 4) None of the other surnames surmised to be Edith's, have any supporting evidence. In other words, no record has been found that lists a person named Edith of these other surnames in the Parish of Curry Rivel or nearby regions. Ex. Though Satterwaite is often listed, this is a surname from northern England at the time, nearly 500 miles away. Therefore, with an understanding of every record in the Parish of Curry Rivel, I suggest that the only likely conclusion is that Edith was Edith Gilling and that her son Marmaduke was born after 1658. (C-253c)

    Edith is listed in Quaker records in Somerset after her marriage. On Nov. 15, 1683 fifteen persons were taken to prison from their meeting at Ilminster, Edith being among them. On Aug. 17, 1689 she and her son Marmaduke were again taken prisoner a couple years after her husband and his father, Marmaduke's death. According to Don Johnson's research, when Marmaduke died, Edith asked his brother's John's wife, Elizabeth to move in with her. Elizabeth had stayed behind in England when her husband moved to Pennsylvania due to poor health. She supposedly took up Edith's offer and both women lived in Marmaduke's homestead till the end of their days barring when Edith was in prison. (C-995)

    Children:
    1. Marmaduke COATE was born in 1658 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG; was christened in in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; died on 15-16 Feb 1729 in Burlington, New Jersey; was buried on 15 Feb 1730 in , Burlington, New Jersey, USA.
    2. Edith COATE was born about 1660; died on Summer of 1684 in Illchester Prison, Somerset, England.
    3. Sarah Jane COATE was born after 1661 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; died in 1737 in , , ENG.
    4. Mary Jane COATE was born about 1661 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; died after 1691.
    5. Elizabeth COATE was born in 1665 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; was christened on 22 Nov 1665 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; and died.
    6. Hannah COATE was born on 12 Jun 1667 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 4 May 1684 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG.
    7. Anne COATE was born on 30 Aug 1669 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; and died.
    8. 2. William COATT was born on 6 Jan 1671 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 21 Mar 1748 in Greinton, Kingsbury, Somerset, ENG.
    9. Thomas COATS

  3. 6.  Thomas POWELL was born on 14 Jun 1663 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG (son of Thomas POWELL and Elinor); died on 15 Dec 1702 in Greinton, Somerset, England.

    Notes:

    He or is father died Sep. 17, 1702 of Greinton according to Polden M.M. records.

    Children:
    1. 3. Deborah POWELL was born before 1685 in Of Greinton, Somerset, ENG; died on 5 Jun 1744 in Kingsbury M.M., Somerset, ENG.
    2. Abigaill POWELL died in Nov 1682 in Of Poldon Hill Mm, Somerset, England.
    3. Thomas POWELL died on 11 Dec 1700 in Of Poldon Hill Mm, Somerset, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Henry COATE, of HambridgeHenry COATE, of Hambridge was born about 1595 in Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England (son of Marmaduke COATE and Marie SOMNER); died about 1662 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG.

    Notes:

    All historical research led us to believe that our Coate line went back through this Henry to his father Marmaduke. We now have a wonderful YDNA match from a cousin in Australia whom has only 1 point out of 37 DNA points different from us. It proves we descend from this Henry Coate, The Elder, who is the most recent common ancestor we have in common. I am so grateful for this. We finally know for certain after 40 years of research via DNA. How truly wonderful!

    He is often called Henry "the Elder" or Henry C. in family member trees. I have seen no actual proof of either. It's possible that he is the Henry "The Elder" listed as the father of an Elizabeth when she married John Podger in Burton, Drayton, England, but this remains to be proven. John or Elizabeth Podger or their children are NOT in this Henry's will. I have therefore given him the name Henry Coate of Hambridge to distinguish him from the Henry of Burton in Drayton Parish, Somerset, England.

    Henry named 5 children in his will, among them Marmaduke and John. He wrote his will on Aug 8, 1661 in Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, England and is listed by the title of Yeoman. It was proved in January of 1663 at Taunton. Henry Coate of Hambridge in the Parish of Curry Rivel within the County of Somerset, Yeoman, by his will gave: To his son Henry "wearing apperel and one pair of boots and 20 pounds." To his son John "four score pounds and one bedstead voer the entry and my best feather bed with one pair of sheets, one pair of blankets and cover bed and two bolsters there unto belonging": and several other articles of furniture, etc. Unto his daughter Rachel 10 shillings, Unto his daughter Mary 10 shillings, Unto his grandchild Jane Counsell 8 pounds, Unto grandchildren William Sugge, John Perry, Henry Perry, John Jermane, Jonathan Coate, Mary Coate, Elizabeth Coate, Mary Sugge, and Edith Coate 20 pounds each Unto Jane Rowsewell his grandchid one shilling. The rest of his goods and chattels he gave to his son Marmaduke whom he made sole executor of his estate. (C-253c) His known 3 sons all became Quakers through marriage in some cases and some of his daughters. They typically attended the Kingsbury Episcopi Monthly Meeting which was fairly small. They all had interconnections as their children married. The burial page for this monthly meeting in the Somerset Quarterly Meeting Records for the Southern Division included less than 30 people most of whom became related as they married. One small family of Humphries were amongst this group, Elizabeth Humphrey marrying John Coate. Other Coate's that remained in Curry Rivel, England remained faithful to the Church of England in that time period. The fact that the will remains means that he was considered one of the wealthy and his will had been transcribed in another site saving it from the bombings of World War II.

    I am descended through his son John married to Elizabeth. As for autosomal DNA we also have small segment matches because of the distance back in time. A cousin is descended through the Marmaduke married to Edith that I have sorted as the son of this Henry Coate named Linda Midgett W. Blum. I'd like to know if we and a Joseph Edge are related through DNA as he descends from Marmaduke and Edith Coate. I have found an autosomal DNA triangulation with cousins who descend from this Henry through other children than I do. It is considered tentative back in this period of time because of the small size of the shared DNA and distance in time. They are 7th cousins to my Uncle for Henry Coate 1595, chromosome16, segments 28234964-34708422 7C, Gedmatch Kits M935084, Z397630, A497476. In any case, Y-DNA has now proved the connection so the autosomal DNA is just icing on the cake.

    Henry married UNKNOWN after 1616. died before 1662. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  UNKNOWN died before 1662.

    Notes:

    Her name is Jane Batholomew according to Steven T. Ernst on ancestry.com. Her name is Emily Jane according to the Joseph Edge Family Tree. She is the first spouse of Henry Coate according to some trees with his other spouse being Joan Combstork/Comstock. If he also was married to a Joan Combstock that occurred on Apr. 28, 1656 in the Parish of Drayton. No wife is mentioned in Henry's will.

    Children:
    1. Rachel COATE was born after 1617 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; and died.
    2. Mary COATE was born after 1617 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; and died.
    3. Henry COATE was born about 1620 in , Somerset, ENG; died in 1663 in Curry Rivel, Somerset, England; was buried in Curry Revell, Somerset, England.
    4. Alice COATE was born before 1625; died after 1640.
    5. 4. Marmaduke COATE was born on 8 Sep 1634 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 22 Jun 1686 in Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG.
    6. Jane COATS was born before 1635 in Of Curry Rivel Parish, Somerset, England; died before 1661 in Of Stoughton, Somerset, England.
    7. John COATE, * was born about 1641; died on 29 Feb 1700 in Kingsbury, Somersetshire, ENG.

  3. 12.  Thomas POWELL was born before 1650 in Of Greinton, Somerset, England; died in in Of Poldon Hill Mm, Somerset, England.

    Thomas married Elinor. Elinor was born before 1651 in Of Somerset, England; died on 27 Dec 1719 in Greinton, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  Elinor was born before 1651 in Of Somerset, England; died on 27 Dec 1719 in Greinton, Somerset, England.
    Children:
    1. 6. Thomas POWELL was born on 14 Jun 1663 in Polden Hill Mm, Middle Division, Somersetshire, ENG; died on 15 Dec 1702 in Greinton, Somerset, England.