Sir John Norris, *

1484 - 1564  (80 years)

• Name	Sir John Norris  [1, 2, 3]
  Suffix	*
  Birth	1484	Yattenden Castle, Berkshire, England, United Kingdom   [3]
  Gender	Male
  Birth	Abt 1490
  Death	of, Fyfield, Berkshire, England
  _MARRIED (I)	N
  Name	John NORREYS  [4]
  Death	21 Oct 1564	Fifield, Berkshire, England, United Kingdom   [3]
  Burial	London Borough of Tower Hamlets, Greater London, England   [5]
  Person ID	I10526	Ancestrees
  Last Modified	7 Sep 2024

  
  

  Father	Edward Norreys Norris, * Baron Norreys,   b. 1465, Yattenden, Berkshire, England d. 1491, Bray, Berkshire, England (Age 26 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Frideswide LOVEL
  Relationship	natural
  _MARRIED	N
  Family ID	F2635	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Lady Elizabeth Bray,   b. 1494, Bray, Berkshire, England, United Kingdom d. 1560, Fifield, Berkshire, England, United Kingdom (Age 66 years)
  Marriage	1520	Hurstmonceaux, Sussex, England
  _MARRIED	N
  Family ID	F2572	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	7 Sep 2024

  
  

  Children	1. John NORRIS, *,   b. Bef 1518   d. Of Reading, Berkshire, ENG  [Father: natural]
  Family ID	F7584	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	7 Sep 2024

  
  

• Notes

  According to the Visitations of Berkshire, John left no legitimate children. He died in 1564. This is a significant statement as it was used nowhere else in the pedigree. It was a remembered fact in 1602 and shows a cautionary tale of the loss of his lands at his death that went to his younger brother, Henry, instead of any illegitimate children. This family accounts for the most likely ancestors of our Mary Norris because her last location in England was Newbury, England according to her marriage record. This was only 7 miles from Yattenden Castle. The biggest clue to help us was with her line is her many triangulated DNA matches with descendants of John Norris, b. 1617 of England, Bermuda, Mass. (in 1635) and Suffolk, NY. The only John in all of England baptized in 1617/1618 traces back to the John whom I am theorizing was the illegitimate son of this John Norris. It fits by time. Sir John also fits by place because he was the heir of Yattenden Castle as the oldest son of Edward. This was one of his residences at the time. Then too, the only baptismal record for a Mary Norris anywhere near where she said she lived was 50 miles away in Bedfordshire, England. It occurred earlier than people were predicting, but still in alignment with child bearing ages. Her father would have been Richard. In Richard's baptismal record, his father's first name is John. In John's baptismal record, his father's first name is not listed. This supports John being illegitimate also. Therefore, it is my theory that the John Norris whose baptismal record can't be located was the likely illegitimate son of this John Norris. Baptismal and some marriage records prove each of this John's descendants down to John of Mass. and NY as well as down to Mary Norris of Plymouth making sense of the DNA matches for these early Norris American colonists connection.

  
  

• Sources

  [S11] Ancestry Family Trees, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;), Ancestry Family Tree, 1,1030::0. [S876] Ancestry.com, Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;). [S277] Ancestry.com, Geneanet Community Trees Index, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2022;). [S1853] Visitations of Berkshire, 1532-1665, Visitations of Berkshire, England with 2 Norris lines combined. [S869] Ancestry.com, UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2012 Place:Lehi, UT, USA;), 1,60526::0.