Elizabeth LNU

Elizabeth LNU[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]

Female 1742 - 1777  (34 years)

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  • Name Elizabeth LNU 
    Born 14 Oct 1742  Winchester, Frederick Co., Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died 4 Mar 1777  Edgefield, Newberry Co., South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1122  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 28 Sep 2023 

    Family William JAY, Jr. *,   b. 12 Sep 1745, Winchester, Winchester City, Virginia, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 28 Feb 1797, , Newberry, SC, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 51 years) 
    Married Est 1760  , Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Sarah JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1762, ,Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Sep 1833, Paoli, Orange County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years)
     2. William JAY,   b. Abt. 1763, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1800, , Miami, OH, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 38 years)
     3. David JAY,   b. 28 Dec 1764, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1842, , Henry, IA, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)
     4. James JAY,   b. 17 Oct 1766, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1849, , Henry, IA, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)
     5. Elizabeth JAY,   b. 16 Apr 1769, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Oct 1803, , Newberry, SC Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 34 years)
     6. Layton JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1771, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1813, Ludlow Falls, Miami, OH, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years)
     7. Charlotte JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1771, , Orange, NC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Dec 1852, , Randolph, IN, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     8. Anna JAY,   b. 5 May 1772, , Orange, NC or Bush River, SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Apr 1828, Union Twp., Miami, OH, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years)
     9. Debora JAY,   b. 25 Apr 1773, Orange, NC or Bush River, SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Mar 1797, , Newberry, SC Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 23 years)
     10. Mary "Polly" JAY,   b. 11 Jan 1777, Newberry, South Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Mar 1822, Of Miami, OH Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years)
    Last Modified 28 Sep 2023 
    Family ID F6002  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • I will be using DNA to prove or disprove Elisabeth's surname as there are many reasons to believe it is incorrect.

      Some lineages give Elizabeth's surname as Layton. There is no proof as yet for this. The surname might have come from a guess because William Jay had a son named Layton. An Indiana branch of the family believed her surname was Natherson. However, if it's correct that William's 2nd wife was Mary Cochran, Layton was not the son of Elizabeth and that further dispells the myth that Elizabeth's surname was Layton. (C-685, 949, 2109)

      As for Natherson, that also is a misrepresentation according to the Jay Family Association: "Many family history enthusiasts reference the Natherson surname when making postings discussing the family of William Jay Jr. and his first wife Elizabeth. They state that Elizabeth's maiden surname was Natherson. There have even been rumors of a "Natherson Bible". After much research the Board of the Jay Family Association has concluded this is likely a dubious reference for the following reasons:1. The Natherson surname does not exist on any US census records prior to 1870. Those appearing in that census list Prussia as a family birth origin.2. The Natherson surname does not exist and is not present in any Orange, Frederick or Fairfax Co. VA records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1734-1751.3. The Natherson surname does not exist and is not present in any Orange, Caswell or Person Co. NC records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1751-1774.4. The Natherson surname does not exist or is not present in any Newberry, Edgefield or Abbeville SC records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1774-1818.5. The Natherson surname does not exist on any colonial records indexed on Ancestry.com.6. ALL other "allied" family surnames connected to the Jay family. Pugh, Wright, Elleman, Anderson, Coppock, Coate, Satterfield, Morrow, Reagin, Patty, Mills, etc proliferate the deed, court, marriage, probate, Quaker and other records in ALL of the above locations. There is an Anderson Family Bible in existence which has been transcribed and notarized. A transcription is in the possession of the Jay Family Association. Perhaps the Natherson surname was a reader's corruption of the Anderson or some other surname and the confusion began at that point. However, until visual documentary evidence of the "Natherson" surname is presented, the Jay Family Association does not accept it as connected to the Jay family and do not believe the Natherson surname existed in the US prior to 1860. Vince King Immediate Past-President Jay Family Association www.jayfamily.org"

  • Sources 
    1. [S740] Kyle Kendrick to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated Feb. 18, 1996 from kk16049@conrad.appstate.edu In possession of L. Dudick (C-685).

    2. [S490] Cassius Jay Jay Family Index Partially in L. Dudick Files (C-167).

    3. [S511] William Jay's DAR Application by Laurie Christine Rasch.

    4. [S2726] Rasch, Peggy to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated May 26, 1984 at N11W27909 White Oak Ct., Waukesha, WI 53186 In L. Dudick files (C-165).

    5. [S729] William Jay Sr. Will dated Nov. 23, 1772 On file at Charleston, SC.

    6. [S738] Michael S. Caldwell to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated April 13, 1984 in Linda Coate files (C-159) Current Status: Lost.

    7. [S743] Julia Jones Henry to Linda Coate Dudick Email letter dated Jan. 17, 1997 at bhenry@rosenet.net In Linda Coate files (C-949).

    8. [S747] Denise Bond to Linda Coate Dudick E-mail letter dated Mar. 1, 1997 at SBond007@aol.com In Linda Coate files (C-983).

    9. [S3266] Ancestry Family Trees, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.), 1,1030::0., Ancestry Family Tree (Reliability: 0).

    10. [S237] U.S., Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935, Ancestry.com, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2014 Place:Lehi, UT, USA), 1,2189::0. (Reliability: 0).