Elizabeth LNU

1742 - 1777  (34 years)

• Name	Elizabeth LNU  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
  Birth	14 Oct 1742	Winchester, Frederick Co., Virginia, USA
  Gender	Female
  Death	4 Mar 1777	Edgefield, Newberry Co., South Carolina, USA
  Person ID	I12078	Ancestrees
  Last Modified	30 Sep 2024

  
  

  Father	David NATHERSON,   b. 18 Feb 1720, Winchester, Frederick Co., Virginia, USA d. 6 Oct 1805, Newberry, Newberry Co., South Carolina, USA (Age 85 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Sarah LAYTON,   b. 17 Jul 1723, Loudoun, South Carolina, United States d. 9 Dec 1815, Newberry, Newberry, South Carolina, United States (Age 92 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	26 Apr 1741	Leicester, Worchester Co, Massachusetts, USA
  Family ID	F5261	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	William JAY, Jr. *,   b. 12 Sep 1745, Winchester, Winchester City, Virginia, United States of America d. Bef 28 Feb 1797, , Newberry, SC, USA (Age < 51 years)
  Marriage	Abt 1760	, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA
  Children	1. Debora JAY, - apparent twin,   b. 25 Apr 1772, , Orange, NC or Bush River, SC d. 21 Mar 1797, , Newberry, SC (Age 24 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Elizabeth JAY,   b. 16 Apr 1769, , Orange, NC d. Oct 1803, , Newberry District, SC (Age 34 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. William JAY,   b. 28 Dec 1764, , Orange, NC d. Aft 1800, , Miami, OH, USA (Age > 37 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   4. Layton JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1771, , Orange, NC d. 1813, Ludlow Falls, Miami, OH, USA (Age 41 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   5. Anna JAY,   b. 5 May 1772, , Orange, NC d. 9 Apr 1828, Union Twp., Miami, OH, USA (Age 55 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   6. Sarah JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1762, Orange, NC or Bush River, SC d. 2 Sep 1833, Paoli, Orange County, Indiana, USA (Age 71 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   7. Mary "Polly" JAY, (Not in father's will),   b. 11 Jan 1777, Newberry, South Carolina d. 3 Mar 1822, Of Miami, OH (Age 45 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   8. James JAY,   b. 17 Oct 1766, Orange Co., NC d. Abt 1849, , Henry, IA, USA (Age 82 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   9. Charlotte JAY,   b. 27 Apr 1771, , Orange, NC d. Abt 1835, , Randolph, IN, USA (Age 63 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   10. David JAY,   b. 28 Dec 1764   d. Aft 1842, , Henry, IA, USA (Age > 79 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F3297	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	30 Sep 2024

  
  

• Notes

  I will be using DNA to prove or disprove Elisabeth's surname as there are many reasons to believe it is incorrect. Some lineages give Elizabeth's surname as Layton. There is no proof as yet for this. The surname might have come from a guess because William Jay had a son named Layton. An Indiana branch of the family believed her surname was Natherson. However, if it's correct that William's 2nd wife was Mary Cochran, Layton was not the son of Elizabeth and that further dispells the myth that Elizabeth's surname was Layton. (C-685, 949, 2109) As for Natherson, that also is a misrepresentation according to the Jay Family Association: "Many family history enthusiasts reference the Natherson surname when making postings discussing the family of William Jay Jr. and his first wife Elizabeth. They state that Elizabeth's maiden surname was Natherson. There have even been rumors of a "Natherson Bible". After much research the Board of the Jay Family Association has concluded this is likely a dubious reference for the following reasons:1. The Natherson surname does not exist on any US census records prior to 1870. Those appearing in that census list Prussia as a family birth origin.2. The Natherson surname does not exist and is not present in any Orange, Frederick or Fairfax Co. VA records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1734-1751.3. The Natherson surname does not exist and is not present in any Orange, Caswell or Person Co. NC records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1751-1774.4. The Natherson surname does not exist or is not present in any Newberry, Edgefield or Abbeville SC records of any kind. This was the Jay family residence from roughly 1774-1818.5. The Natherson surname does not exist on any colonial records indexed on Ancestry.com.6. ALL other "allied" family surnames connected to the Jay family. Pugh, Wright, Elleman, Anderson, Coppock, Coate, Satterfield, Morrow, Reagin, Patty, Mills, etc proliferate the deed, court, marriage, probate, Quaker and other records in ALL of the above locations. There is an Anderson Family Bible in existence which has been transcribed and notarized. A transcription is in the possession of the Jay Family Association. Perhaps the Natherson surname was a reader's corruption of the Anderson or some other surname and the confusion began at that point. However, until visual documentary evidence of the "Natherson" surname is presented, the Jay Family Association does not accept it as connected to the Jay family and do not believe the Natherson surname existed in the US prior to 1860. Vince King Immediate Past-President Jay Family Association www.jayfamily.org"

  
  

• Sources

  [S128] Rasch, Peggy to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated May 26, 1984 at N11W27909 White Oak Ct., Waukesha, WI 53186 In L. Dudick files (C-165). [S11] Ancestry Family Trees, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;), Ancestry Family Tree, 1,1030::0. [S344] Cassius Jay Jay Family Index Partially in L. Dudick Files (C-167). [S1088] William Jay's DAR Application by Laurie Christine Rasch. [S2299] William Jay Sr. Will dated Nov. 23, 1772 On file at Charleston, SC. [S2317] Michael S. Caldwell to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated April 13, 1984 in Linda Coate files (C-159) Current Status: Lost. [S2318] Kyle Kendrick to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated Feb. 18, 1996 from kk16049@conrad.appstate.edu In possession of L. Dudick (C-685). [S2319] Julia Jones Henry to Linda Coate Dudick Email letter dated Jan. 17, 1997 at bhenry@rosenet.net In Linda Coate files (C-949). [S2320] Denise Bond to Linda Coate Dudick E-mail letter dated Mar. 1, 1997 at SBond007@aol.com In Linda Coate files (C-983). [S56] Ancestry.com, U.S., Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2014 Place:Lehi, UT, USA;), 1,2189::0.