Thomas AP ROWLAND

Abt 1598 - 1672  (74 years)

• Name	Thomas AP ROWLAND  [1, 2, 3]
  Birth	Abt 1598	Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales
  Gender	Male
  Death	1672	Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales
  Person ID	I12586	Ancestrees
  Last Modified	29 Sep 2024

  
  

  Father	Rowland OWEN (SHERIFF OF MONTGOMERY),   b. 1570, Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales d. 28 Aug 1641, St Asaph Church, , Montgomeryshire, Wales (Age 71 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Elizabeth PUGH,   b. 1570, Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales d. 29 Aug 1641, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales Buried St Asaph Church, Montgomeryshire, Wales (Age 71 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	1597	Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales
  Family ID	F4969	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Joyce PUGHE,   b. 1600, Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales d. 1630, Machynlleth, WA, Montgomeryshire, Wales (Age 30 years)
  Marriage	1624	Machynlleth, , Montgomeryshire, Wales
  Children	1. Rowland OWEN,   b. 1625, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales d. 4 Apr 1710 (Age 85 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Susanna HarryHarris OWEN,   b. Abt 1630, of, Llunllo, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales d. Abt 1675, James City, Virginia, Colonial America (Age 45 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. Martha HarryHarris OWEN,   b. 1627, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales d. Yes, date unknown  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   4. Harry Thomas OWEN,   b. Abt 1630, Of Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, WLS d. Aft Mar 1686, Birmingham, Chester Pennslyvania, USA (Arrived 1683) (Age > 56 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F3732	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	29 Sep 2024

  
  

• Notes

  It is not now certain that Harry Thomas Owen's father was Thomas. Even if his name was Thomas as suspected from Welsh naming patterns, there appear to have been two Thomas Owens living in Machynlleth. The famous Thomas Owen who has been ped as his father in even the American President's genealogies is now considered unlikely to be Harry's father. This Thomas served as Mayor of Machynlleth in 20 James (1622) and later as Magistrate. He was a well-to-do landowner like his father around Machynlleth. In the REGISTRUM UNIVERSITATIS OXONIENSIS is lists that he graduated from Oxford specifically Jesus College, Oxford on May 3, 1616 at age 20. That would place his birth date around 1598 even though other source estimates are around 1607. (C-437,p6) He died in 1672. The Owen home, originally built around 400 years ago, called "Llynlloed" is possibly where the Magistrate Thomas lived. Photographs and diagrams of it are in the Harry Harold, July. 1991 issue. The original home is inside the structure that has been added to and currently stands in Wales. (C-750) This Magistrate Thomas Owen line goes back maternally through many branches of Royalty. However, it is now considered HIGHLY suspect because 1) Hugh Thomas Owen's son Hugh Harry is listed as a pauper in his son's American Quaker records, 2) Hugh Harry when he came to America was a weaver, a profession not likely for the grandchild of someone with the stature of the above Thomas Owen, 3) Hugh Thomas did not live in Macynlleth originally, but apparently moved there from elsewhere (which is not the case with the well-to-do Thomas Owen above described) and 4) Thomas Owen, the magistrate, in his will, lists 2 sons and 8 daughters and all his grandchildren. He does not list Harry or Henry as a son. This last point might not matter since he could have disowned a son Harry when he became a Quaker. (C-1209, E)

  
  

• Sources

  [S2437] Neil D. Thompson, Hugh Harry, Quaker Immigrant to Pennsylvania The Harry Herald Volume 10, Number 4 Dec 1994 pg. 5-7. [S11] Ancestry Family Trees, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;), Ancestry Family Tree, 1,1030::0. [S202] Robert Jesse Harry, The Ancestors and Descendants of Hugh Harry and Elizabeth Brinton.