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- This Coate's group's lineage is proven back to Henry Coate "The Elder" b. abt 1595 who was the son of Marmaduke and Marie Somner Coate of Bridgeport and Curry Rivel England via a YDNA match to a cousin in Australia. We know from our Coats YDNA group that Gentleman John is absolutely a descendant from Samuel and Mary Saunder's Coate so the theory that his father is William is still reasonable. William was after all the only other son of Samuel and Mary Saunders Coate that ended up in South Carolina near the town of Newberry. We also know that his brother, Henry's sons as recorded in Quaker records do not account for any of William's sons.
What we also know through a detailed YDNA analysis, is that his son John is Big John Coats!!!!! This evidence comes from comparing the YDNA of a descendant of Gentleman John with 4 descendants of Big John. The results show Big John is related at the 8 generation point to Gentleman John at the 97% range. Also these sets of descendants have way more YDNA in common than with anyone else in the Coats group confirming by age, place and YDNA that Big John is the son of Gentleman John. Multiple autosomal triangulations with another descendant of Big John via his son John M. also converge on this exact same deduction.
We now have good YDNA evidence that Gentleman John is the probable brother to Thomas who died in the Newberry area of SC in 1800.
We also now have an indication via autosomal DNA triangulations with Dubois descendants that this Gentleman John who died on May 6, 1803 is related to the Rachel Dubois Coate of Northern Liberties, Philadelphia, PA and to her grandfaher, Louis Dubois. What that indicates is that Gentleman John's wife or Mother was a Dubois descended from Louis Dubois! We know it can be narrowed to these 2 females as they are the only unknown females back in the distance where autosomal dna is indicating a common Dubois ancestor to Gentleman John.
What we also know about John is that he has the title Gentleman in some of the late public documents in the Carolinas. He was probably born between 1730 and 1740. He might possibly be the John Coate who along with wife Mary, moved from Chesterfield M.M. to Kingwood M.M., N.J. on 13,1,1763 and then returned to Chesterfield M.M. on 11,12,1766. (C-46) Here is what Summers book says about him: "John Coats died about 1803, his will being dated May 25, 1799. He left widow, Mary, and children Samuel, John, William, James, Mary Pemberton, Katy Casselle, and Rebecca."
We know that John Coate owned land on Mathias Branch on Bush Creek from his will. Kathleen Woodrow believes that Mathias Branch is a creek that runs closely into the junction of Reedy Creek and Big Beaverdam Creek before it flows into Bush River a mile north of the town of Newberry. However, it should be noted that no deed has been found for his purchase of land. A 400 acre tract purchased in 1772 is attributed to him, but it's location has been determined to be multiple miles northwest of the town of Newberry, with neighbors that don't connect to any of the neighbors of his in a 1773 plat map or in his will of 1803. A plat map survey done for Christian Kinslar in Mar. of 1773 on Bush River shows that John Coate (his son) was adjoining his land. Other neighbors included Jacob Pemberton, John Furnas, Samuel Kelly, and Jacob Chandler (all families mentioned as adjoining land he was giving to his sons in his will). Some of these are the same persons living next to William Coats when he purchased land in Craven Co., SC in 1767. He therefore, might be the John Coats who purchased 150 acres of land on June 6, 1769 in Craven Co., South Carolina. It's possible boundary changes in the county lines could mean this land was later in Newberry, SC. That needs to be checked. (C-2306)
He was the John that was connected as furnishing sundries and supplies during the Revolutionary War in DAR records. This was revoked as lacking evidence at some point. Here is the DAR index that was listed for Gentleman John in the past. COATS , John, Birth SC Circa 1740, Rank PS (Public Service), Service SC, Death SC 3 , Jun 1803, Patriot Pensioned No, Widow Pensioned No, Children Pensioned No, Heirs Pensioned No, Spouse (1) Mary X (C-614c, 1889, EL-Coate). He apparently was delisted as a Revolutionary War supporter in about 1998 because no one could prove for sure that he was the John Coate who was a Revolutionary War soldier. These reimbursement papers from 1781-1783 indicate he did blacksmithing. These papers, therefore, likely to belong to Big John or Little John Coats as they were the only known blacksmiths in the Coate family at that time. </line><line /><line>He or his son John is probably the John who was disowned by the Quaker church at the Oct 28, 1780 Bush River MM, South Carolina. His family isn't even included in Medlin's [UL:Quaker Families:UL]. It should be noted however, that the William who is connected as John's son, signs his own will like a Quaker would have.
At least some of his grandchildren married into the Baptist faith and are buried in Bush River Baptist Cemetery. One of his great grand-daughters married into the Baptist faith, Nancy, d. of Samuel's daughter, Charlotte Steadman, also. (C-1896, 1927)In the 1790 census (p. 57), I now believe him to be the John Cotes living next to Samuel Kelly. If so, he had 3 males over 16 and 3 females in the household. This would account for he and his wife, their son James and youngest daughter, Rebecka. I'm guessing that one of his married children and spouse are also still living on his farm at that time. If this is him, he is living next to Samuel Kelly, Sr. and near his son John who looked to be newly married with a wife. They would have also lived within 40 homes of Marmaduke and Little John Coates family.
I have determined that this census applies to him for the following reasons. His neighbors in the 1790 census records match his neighbors in the following land transactions. He is listed as a neighbor along with James Dobbins on Matthias Branch of Bush River in Aug of 1770. (James Dobbins is also on page 56.) His daughter Mary is married to George Pemberton on page 57 also. When he witnesses Joseiah Pemberton's purchase of land on Dec 5, 1771 on Mathews Creek on Bush River, his neighbors are Robert Evans, and John Brooks. Pembertons and Brooks lived somewhat near as they are on page 57 and 56. (see below) When he deeds 3 of his sons property in 1803 before his death, the properties bounded on lands owned by Samuel Compton (Kampton), Rebekah Evans, Welk Furnas and Samuel Kelly. All the persons mentioned in these records are neighbors or have the same surnames of persons living near him in the 1790 census. One of these deed records is listed below. (C-559, 1549, 2232) p. 247 Book Z-3, pp. 271-275, 5 or 6 Dec. 1771, James Walker Moore (his mark), blacksmith, Haverilla (her mark) his wife, to Joseiah Pemberton, planter, both of Berkeley Co., for 400 pounds currency, 250 a. on Mathews Creek, a branch of Bush River, bounding NW, NE on Robert Evans; NE on John Brooks; other sides on vacant land; granted Moore 24 Aug 1720 by Lt. Gov. William Bull (Sec. Book F.F.F., p. 131). Witnesses: John Thomas, John Coate, James Daugherty. Before Thomas Wadlington, J.P. Recorded 10 Nov. 1772 by Henry Rugeley, Register. In the 1800 census, Gentleman John and his wife are empty nesters, living as a couple with no other children in their household.
John Coate's wife's surname is still unknown. Parks suggested that it might be Mary McQueston from a 1769 marriage record in North Carolina. However, this entire family named John Coots and Mary McQuiston, stayed and raised children in NC and Tennesee in Presbyterian Church records, so that theory has been proven to be incorrect. (C-1898) Another theory is that she is Mary Watson based upon a deed record dated Jun 7, 1774. Though it is possible he married a Mary Watson, I see no certain connection because we've figured out who each of the persons in that deed are. A James Coate died in 1794 in GA, leaving heirs that included his wife Mary, his son John (who had moved to Newberry, SC) and multiple daughters who all married Watsons, sons of Thomas Watson, Sr. (C-1521)
His will written May 25, 1799 is transcribed as follows: In the Name of God Amen (This verifies that he is not a Quaker at his death as it is a form of oath taking) ---- I John Coate of the County of Newberry and State of South Carolina being in my perfect mind memory and Understanding and Calling to mind the Mortality of my body and Knowing that it is appointed for Man Once to die, do Make and Ordain this my last Will and Testament (VIZ). I give and bequeath unto my beloved Wife Mary Coats all my Household Kitchen furniture of what every kind there May be during her natural life and at her death to be Disposed off as she may think proper, for her Support and Maintainace - Item. I give and bequeth unto my son Samuel Coats One Shillng Sterling and no more to him his heirs forever ---- Item. I give and bequeth unto my Son John Coats One Tract of land lying on waters of Bush River Joining lands of William Comptons, and running on Samuel Comptons, Rebekah Evans's and Isaiah Pemberton's lines to the Corner from thence across to Chandlers line it being a part of a Tract of Three Hundred Ac of land to him his heirs and assigns forever. ---Item I give and bequeath unto my son William Coats a plantation or Tract of land Joining lands of Samuel Kelley beginning at Mathiases Creek from thence running upon Chandlers line from thence up the line to where it intersects the line to be run between my sons John Coats and William Coats, being a part of aforeseaid Tract of Three Hundred Acres, with my Waggon and all my working and farming Utensils to him his heirs & Assigns forever --- Item I give and bequeath unto my son James Coats one other plantation or Tract of land lying on the East Side of Mathhieses Creek beginning on Isaiah Pembertons line and running to Wilk Furnaises line from thence on Isaiah Pembertons line down to Matthew's Creek thence up the said Creek to the beginning to him his heirs and assigns forever --- Item I give and bequeath unto my three Daughters Namely Mary Pemberton Caty Cassels and Rebekah Coats One Shilling Sterling and no more. and lastly I Do hereby Nominate appoint my Sons James Coats, John Coats and William Coats my Executors to this My last Will & Testatment Ratifying and Confirming this and no other to be my last Will and Testament and Revoking all other wills by me made In Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal this 25th, Day of May 1799 --- Signed Sealed published pronounce and Declared to be the last Will and Testament of the said John Coate in the presence of Edward Thweatt Geo. Powel - Fred. Nance John Coate (Seal) Recorded in Will Book "D" Page 57. Proved June 6th, 1803. Test. Samuel Lindsey, O.N.D. (Recording Date Not Available). Box No. 26- Pkg No 55-- Est No. 613. (C-266, 336, 614b, 633, 692, 1954, 2121)He died on May 6, 1803. (C-692) His children were not listed as minors at the writing of his will in 1799. Two of his daughters were married by that point. (C-879, 886)
All the children's birth dates I have estimated from information in the will, from information on his possible son Samuel's daughter, Nancy, and from census records. Note that as the son of William, he would have named one son after his father and one daughter after his step-sister Katherine.
An interesting pattern appears with the land he deeded his sons on his deathbed in 1803. Gentleman John's son William in his will dated 1816, gives land to his family that is described in a way that could match the original William of 1766's land in Newberry Co., South Carolina. It is listed as adjoining "old Golden's" land which was true of William of 1766's land. When he was given land by his father's will dated 1799, the land was described as being next to Samuel Kelly's land. Again, this was another neighbor of the original William. In other words, the William who died ca 1822 could have owned land of his grandfather. We are not sure if he received it from his father John, his possible grandfather William, or one of his brothers, but it certainly sounds like land that the original William owned.
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Bef 1732 - 1803 (> 71 years)
