Thomas THORPE

Thomas THORPE[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Male Abt 1637 - 1686  (~ 49 years)

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  • Name Thomas THORPE  [7
    Born Abt 1637  Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 17 May 1637  St Mary, Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 21 Nov 1686  Kent County, Maryland, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 8
    Person ID I3404  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 

    Father Thomas THORPE,   b. 1612, Navenby, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1657-1658, Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 46 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth 
    Family ID F4361  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth (NOT POWELL),   b. Bef 1642, of Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1689, , Talbot, MD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 47 years) 
    Married 21 Nov 1681  , Kent, MD Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Children 
     1. Thomas THORPE,   b. 1659, Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 May 1704, , Essex, VA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years)
     2. Frances THORPE,   b. Abt 1660, Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 1661, Barton Upon Humber, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 1 years)
     3. Mary THORPE,   b. Abt 1665, Isle Of Wight, Isle Of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1686, of Kent, Maryland, British Colonial America Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 22 years)
     4. Elizabeth THARP,   b. Aft 1670, Langford Bay, Kent Co, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1703  (Age ~ 32 years)
     5. William THARP,   b. Abt 1681, Langford Bay, Kent, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1748, , Talbot, MD Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 67 years)
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F4913  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Notes 
    • Here is what we know about this Thomas from YDNA results at FTDNA. He is related to Solomon Tharp, b. 1750 of Delaware and other states and to a Zacheas Tharp, b.c. 1750, Botecourt Co., VA and a Jeremiah Tharp of unknown date. Solomon is not the Solomon of Woodbridge, NJ as they are absolutely not related via YDNA testing. The Woodbridge, NJ group is an entirely different YDNA grouping.

      Here is who our Thomas is NOT related to via YDNA.

      1. Haplotype #1: Thomas Thorpe (1631) of Woodbridge, New Jersey; Zebulon Tharp (early 1700's) of Virginia; Benjamin Tharp (abt 1770) of Virginia, Thomas Thorp (1818) of Ontario, Canada; John Jacob Thorp/Tharp (1776) of Morris County, New Jersey.
      3. Haplotype #3: John Henry Tharp (abt 1830) of Somerset County, New Jersey.
      4. Haplotype #4: James Tharp (1799) of Virginia.
      5. Haplotype #5: George Thorpe (late 1700's) of England.
      6. Haplotype #6: William Thorpe (abt 1605) of New Haven, Connecticut.

      Thomas was born in England or Virginia and supposedly lived in Virginia from 1660-1674. Descendants have theorized that he came as an indentured servant in one of the two following possibilities. It is believed that our Thomas came from Virginia before he moved to Maryland as per a Ship's passenger list dated 1683. He bought 200 acres of land in Maryland in 1684 known as Pentridge from Jacob Johnson of Langford Cay (Bay), Kent Co., MD. He paid for it with 4300 pounds of Tobacco indicating that he had land in1683/4 to be able to buy these 200 acres in 1684.

      Here are the theories that he was an indentured servant instead. A Thomas arrived in a party in 1653/1654 where David Philips/Felps of Lancaster Co., VA claimed him and others as headrights. The other persons he claimed could have came from the same area in England. They were Jonathan Humphries, Elizabeth Collins, Thomas Smythson, and Mr. Jonathan Cox. He is the following Thomas. "Thomas Tharpe was born in 1633 in England to William Thorp and his wife, Margaret and was baptized on 28 Oct 1633 in St Michael's Parish, Bassinshaw, London, London, England.

      He arrived in Virginia in 1654 and John Cox sponsored him in Lancaster, VA.

      He married Alice (last name unknown) and they had 3 children---William (b 1662), Thomas (1664-May 1704), and Elizabeth(b 1601). Alice died after 6 Feb 1666/7 in Sittingbourne Parish, Rappahannock County, VA.

      He and Henry (Hendrick) Lucas bought 105 acres for their families in Rappahannock Co, VA on 28 Feb 1662 and again on 20 Oct 1662.

      After Alice died Henry gave (deeded) Alice half of the land that he and Thomas had purchased with the stipulation that the land go to her oldest son, William, when she died so that the land would remain with the family.

      Thomas Thorpe was born before 1642. [1]"

      Another Thomas Thorp came in 1658 instead and was claimed by John Evans of Westmoreland Co., Virginia. Evans claimed headrights on 33 passengers. They were himself, Jonathan Evans Jr., Mary Evans; (all of Westmoreland and then Essex Co., VA) Timothy, Edward and Charles Hill, Robert and Peter Lowe; Stephen, James and Richard Allen; Thomas and John Thorpe; Mary and Elizabeth Lord; Ann and Elizabeth Thompson; Abigail Parker; Barnaby Little; Rice Jones; Thomas Allstone; James Morrison; Leonard Strong; John Batt; John Moyses; John Clerk; Henry King; John Stoile; Edward Shoare; Sarah Voss; Tabitha Hare; Ann Dakin; and Edward Person. Again, if these persons are all from one region in England it could give us a lead back to our Thomas' ancestors. The headright system was for men, women and children at the time. That along with DNA saying we are related to the early Massachusetts group could help us narrow down where both groups are from. Candee Varvil suggests that this Thomas Tharp was from Westmorland, VA and probably ended up in Northumberland, VA and is not likely ours.

      Right now, the only one unaccounted for is the Thomas who emigrated in 1664 to Virginia from immigration records.

      It is important to note that the Virginia Company first started this headright system, where persons who could pay for the passage of "poor" persons to Virginia would not only receive at least 50 acers of land per person, but also had their indentured servitude for their agreed upon number of years.

      The land our Thomas purchased in Kent Co., MD was close to if not on Quaker Neck. Although Thomas was not a Quaker, the Tharps often lived near Quakers and some of them married into Quaker families. A note of interest in Robert L. Tharp's book, is that Thomas is known not to be a Quaker because he started his will with "In the name of God, Amen," a manner never used by Quakers.

      He died before Nov. 21, 1686 in that same county as his will was probated then. In his will he named: son, William, underage; daughter, Elizabeth, probably under age, neither with heirs, son Thomas Thorp, daughter, Mary Thorp. He dispossessed his "rebellious wife Elizabeth Tharp ... because she is gone away in another Country with James Carle and have carried a great parte of my goods along with her and lives in adultery with him." He made his friend, Robert Erick his executor and appointed guardian for his two underage children. He bequeathed him the land meant for William and Elizabeth if they had no heirs. (CL-316)

      When looking on Freereg.org.uk, here are the baptismal dates of any of the Thomas Thorpes that were born in a range to be this Thomas. Obviously his parentage is difficult to discern.

      Thomas THORPE Baptism 25 Apr 1634 Bedfordshire Elstow : St Mary and St Helena : Other Transcript
      Thoms. THORPE Baptism 04 Sep 1636 Yorkshire, East Riding Howden : St Peter : Other Transcript
      Thomas TRAPPE Baptism 23 Oct 1636 Warwickshire Stratford-upon-Avon : Holy Trinity : Phillimore's Transcript
      Thomas TRIPPE Baptism Mar 1637/8 Lincolnshire Barton on Humber : St Peter : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORP Baptism May 1637 Lincolnshire Barton on Humber : St Mary : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 05 Jul 1637 Surrey Newdigate : St Peter : Other Transcript
      Tho. THORPE Baptism 12 Aug 1638 Yorkshire, West Riding Hampsthwaite : St Thomas a Becket : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 24 Feb 1639/40 Norfolk Norwich : St James with Pockthorpe : Parish Register
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 07 Mar 1640/41 Derbyshire Dronfield : St John : Parish Register
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 11 * 1641 Cambridgeshire Littleport : St George : Bishop's Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 10 Nov 1641 Yorkshire, West Riding Crofton : All Saints : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 28 Sep 1642 Surrey Newdigate : St Peter : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 23 Apr 1643 Lincolnshire Heckington : St Andrew : Parish Register
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 18 May 1643 Yorkshire, West Riding Carlton (Snaith) : St Mary : Other Transcript
      Thomas THORPE Baptism 16 Mar 1644/45 Sussex West Grinstead : St George : Parish Register

      Out of these, and the one born in 1640 in Hertfordshire from English baptismal records, all of them except one are accounted for by YDNA, or English records placing them in England when our Thomas was in Maryland.

      The one that disappears from English records in 1661, is a match to our Thomas who could have first arrived in Virginia in 1664. This would explain why he had 4000+ lbs of Tobacco to buy his land in Kent Co., Maryland in 1683. His unknown wife never appears in burial records in England. He has a son Thomas who was born in Lincolnshire, England where he was from whose marriage and death never occur in Lincolnshire either. The fit makes a very strong theory.

      Please note, that there is a John Thorpe whom is a witness for the will of Jacob Lowder in 1696 also in Kent, Maryland that seems like it could be his son.

  • Sources 
    1. [S3193] Candee Varvill, [(E-ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE),], to Linda Coate, e-mail, 2018; privately held by Coate .

    2. [S2768] Robert L. Tharp, Descendents of Thomas Tharp, Born About 1640 (Unpublished).

    3. [S1231] Tharp, Internet Site.

    4. [S724] My Heritage. (www.myheritage.com : 6/19/2015).

    5. [S10] Maryland, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1635-1777, Ancestry.com, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2015 Place:Provo, UT, USA), 1,9068::0., Will Books; Author: Maryland. Prerogative Court; Probate Place: Maryland (Reliability: 0).

    6. [S3266] Ancestry Family Trees, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.), 1,1030::0., Ancestry Family Tree (Reliability: 0).

    7. [S190] U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Ancestry.com, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc Date:2010 Place:Provo, UT, USA), 1,7486::0., Place: Virginia; Year: 1664; Page Number: 455 (Reliability: 0).

    8. [S122] Global, Find a Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current, Ancestry.com, (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2012 Place:Provo, UT, USA), 1,60541::0. (Reliability: 0).