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John Coate, *

John Coate, *

Male 1641 - 1700

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  • Name John Coate 
    Suffix
    Birth 1641 
    Gender Male 
    Birth Abt 1641  [1, 2
    Death 1699/00  Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name John COATE *  [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    Death 29 Feb 1700  Kingsbury, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 10, 14, 15
    Person ID I7586  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 7 Sep 2024 

    Father Henry COATE, * "The Elder" of Hambridge,   b. Abt 1595, Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1662, Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 67 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother UNKNOWN   d. Bef 1662 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage Aft 1616 
    Family ID F5740  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Marriage 29 Dec 1663  Kingsbury M.M., Somerset, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. John COATE,   b. 6th da 9th mo 1665, Lambrook, Somerset, ENG Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 4 Jun 1681, Kingsbury Episcopi M.M., Somershetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 16 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F1006  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 7 Sep 2024 

    Family 2 Elizabeth Ann WILKINS,   b. Jan 1643, Shapwick, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 11 Feb 1721, Hambridge, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 78 years) 
    Marriage Aft 1685 
    Family ID F1007  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 7 Sep 2024 

  • Notes 
    • We now have absolute proof that we descend through John's father Henry with two other YDNA testers in our Coats Surname Project at FTDNA. These cousins descend from a different son of Henry's that ends up being forced to migrate to Australia. Thank you, Australian cousins for helping to prove this line from 1595 to the present! We actually all meet up with our first common ancestor being the great-grandfather of this John at the very earliest in time via current Big Y evidence.

      I also triangulate with autosomal DNA cousins who descends through John and Elizabeth Coate's daughter, Ann Coate, on chromosome 7 in overlapping segments as our 1st common Coate ancestor, tentatively suggesting our descent from John and Elizabeth. Back in this distance of time, the cM's segment match length is small enough that it can't currently prove the descent. I expect that the fact that we triangulate improves the statistical proof, but we will have to wait till the mathematics in this field also improves to know for sure. I would guess that John's mother's name could be Elizabeth from his 2 daughter's names. Ann would have been named after his mother-in-law, JoAnn.

      Here are the facts that we do know about John Coate. He was the father of our Samuel Coate of Somerset Co., England; Newtown, PA and Hunterdon Co., NJ proven by the fact that Samuel was given 200 acres of his father, John Coate's land in Newtown, Pennsylvania via letter dated August, 1699 from Somerset, England one month before John Coate died in England. John was married to Elizabeth Humphreys in England and had the following children: John, Henry, James, Samuel, and Elizabeth. His children's births are registerd as being from the Kingsbury Episcopi M.M., Middle Divison of the Somerset Quarterly Meeting in England. Quaker records were only kept in their monthly meeting from 1665-1673. They list both John and Elizabeth as parents. They are listed right before his nephew Marmaduke married to Ann Pole's children are listed in this Middle Division of the Somerset Monthly Meeting records all in the same hand. They likely were transcribed from their Monthly Meeting records kept until 1673. It is known that they had four small children and one on the way in 1672 when it was recorded that his house had been burnt down and his wife was expecting. This matches well with the birth dates of his children. However, he could have had more children from 1673 onward that were not in the records. One source lists him with a daughter named Ann. This fits well with info on descendants of an Ann Coate (1673-1762) married to a Roger Fort (1669-1749) in the United States. (E)

      He lived in Lambrook, England, which adjoins the town of Curry Rivel on the east. He is often listed in the Illchester Monthly Meeting Minutes or Southern Division Monthly Meeting Minutes as it was known beginning in 1670.

      Other events in his lifetime are as follows.

      1668 His wife, Elizabeth Coate, sister to John Humphries, was reprimanded for being married by a priest indicating that John was not a Quaker at the time of his marriage. Kingsbury MM, Somerset, England.

      1670 8mo 27d In Somerset: "In this Year the following Persons were committed to Prison at Ilchester for refusing to pay Tithes, ... Impropriator: John Coate, at the suit of Samuel Tilley." http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

      1671 2mo 27d In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

      25d 7mo 1672 In the Southern Division MM minutes, a request was made to other area meetings to aid and assist John Coate, whose "afflicted condition" had resulted from his imprisonment, the burning of his home and property, his indebtedness, his responsibility for his 4 small children, "one of them having been scalded near to death and his wife also being near her time."

      1672 12mo 29 In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

      1676 12mo 24 In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

      1678 On 28 of month 3 (May), John Coat of Lambrook was at the Bishop's Court on the same day that Quaker John Whiting was questioned for not paying tithes, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

      1678 (4mo: Park) At Somerset, "Beside those already mentioned, there had been imprisoned for Tithes, some Years before John Whiting's Commitment, John Coate, John Smith, Thomas Ridiout of Mark, and Walter Hodges of Kingsbury. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/mn/m3350x3351.htm

      1679 5mo 31d In attendance at Illchester MM, Somerset, England (Park)

      1680 2mo 29d "For a Meeting at Gregory-Stoke: John Cuffe, John Pinny, Francis Scott, and John Coate, were fined

  • Sources 
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    2. [S111] Coats, Gary W., Descendants of Marmaduke Coate Database.

    3. [S53] Burlington Friends Records, New Jersey.

    4. [S1369] Louise E. Jones to Eloise Worcester Letter dated 1984 at 36 E. Hickory Rd, Lombard, IL 60148 In L. Dudick files (C-199).

    5. [S54] Elizabeth Murphy Cann to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated May 1, 1985 at 2852 So. Webster, Denver, CO. 80227 In L. Dudick's files.

    6. [S1370] John Ammel to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated Feb. 29, 1996 at R.R.1, Parker, KS 66072-9801 In L. Dudick's Files.

    7. [S1371] History of West Branch Quarterly Meeting of Society of Friends, West Milton, Ohio 1807-1957.

    8. [S1372] DAR, comp, Lineage Book of the National Society of Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America (Daughters of the American Revolution, V. 31).

    9. [S1373] Coate, John, WFT.

    10. [S166] Bristol and Somerset Quarterly Meeting Digest of Register of Burials, 1651-1837 (LDS #1484609).

    11. [S161] Ernest S. Park, Ancestors & Descendants of Marmaduke Coate of South Carolina and Ohio (unpub, c1950, 1960).

    12. [S1374] Bristol and Somerset Quarterly Meeting Marriages.

    13. [S59] Burial Friends Records of New Jersey.

    14. [S430] Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Date:2013 Place:Provo, UT, USA;), 1,7097::0.

    15. [S167] Dornan, Professor A Transcript of Professor Dornan's Notes.